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| lady wakasa |
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Indian movies: I found the email of the coworkers' suggestions. It's not as long as I thought it was, but they mentioned Parineeta (http://www.parineetathefilm.com/), which was a recent hit, and Sholay (http://www.indiancdstore.com/ViewDetails.asp?p_id=154), which was the most popular movie in Indian film history until recently, and was based on Seven Samurai (or, more directly, on Magnificent Seven).
Or so they told me. I haven't gotten to check these out yet. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:03 pm |
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Lady,
I have traces of very positive memories from the 1953 version of Parineeta. I have not seen the remake.
I saw Sholay recently on DVD, and liked it. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:17 pm |
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| Ingmar Bergman's teleplay Saraband (2003) takes forward his 1973 drama Scenes from a Marriage. It is the story of an aging man in his 80's, his ex-wife who comes to visit him after a gap of 30 years, his son from a previous marriage, and the son's 19 year old daughter. These four are entangled in intense but mixed emotions, dwelling on past hurts, seething anger, exploitative relationships and shearing words. Superbly acted by Erland Josephson and Liv Ullmann. Watching it was an emotionally cathartic experience. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:56 pm |
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Ghulam wrote: Ingmar Bergman's teleplay Saraband (2003) takes forward his 1973 drama Scenes from a Marriage. It is the story of an aging man in his 80's, his ex-wife who comes to visit him after a gap of 30 years, his son from a previous marriage, and the son's 19 year old daughter. These four are entangled in intense but mixed emotions, dwelling on past hurts, seething anger, exploitative relationships and shearing words. Superbly acted by Erland Josephson and Liv Ullmann. Watching it was an emotionally cathartic experience.
Is it really a teleplay? I have it in the house from netflix. It was released here as a feature film, publicized as Bergman's last film, and called the Best Film of 2005 by one of my favorite movie critics, Mike Clark of USA Today. |
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| sioux |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:43 pm |
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I have to confess that though I am way behind in my Oscar viewing, when faced with a snowed in weekend, I went to the video store and rented two non-Oscar flicks. The Ariscocrats and Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room was my snowbound viewing. I knew that knowing the joke wasn't the point of The Aristocrats but I have to say that I still am glad I went into the film not knowing it. Its a really dumb joke - I might not have seen the film if I'd known it. I kept saying over and over again - "That's just wrong!!!" It was a brilliant deconstruction of a joke.
I'd seen the Enron thing before, but I was showing it to my love, who had actually watched the congressional hearings. It is a really good breakdown of the scandal, and again, I just despair about the ability to create a culture where lots of people do terrible things that they know screw other people while it profits them. grrrr |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:47 pm |
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| Saw the Enron movie the other day for the first time. Though it served as a capsule lesson in the whole scandal, the movie was made without any special imagination. It was enlightening and mediocre at the same time. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:50 pm |
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| ENRON is informative but not nearly as engaging as I thought it would be. Overrated. It did make me angry, though. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:53 pm |
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| I'm just glad it's out there. It seemed to take so long getting a DVD release, I was beginning to get suspicious. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:01 pm |
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| sioux: Actiually, the Enron film is up for Best Documentary at the Oscars. |
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| sioux |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:06 pm |
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well this is related to what's happening in current film but I started here so here's my question:
I saw Farenheit 911 and I saw Supersize Me. I generally felt positively about both films which was probably helped by my pre-disposition to agree with their theses. I did think that Michael Moore used filmic sidebars aimed directly at his base audience which were so biased as to color any idea of objectivitiy to his subject matter. In particular, I think a simple showing of Bush reading to children while the country was being attacked could have been shown with NO embellishments and it would have told the story more eloquently than he did. I also think Morgan Spurlock used audience friendly demonstrations more than he needed.
In comparison, "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room" was kind of dry. Though it did explain things in ways I understood, it didn't seem to be afraid of jargon. I was moved by the way that it showed how northwestern power workers were bankrupted by the company's arrogant disregard for anything but profit for the top management. It wasn't a kill'em doc in the style of Moore and Spurlock but it left me angrier than I could have thought as someone not a California resident or an Enron stockholder. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:08 pm |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:59 am |
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Scenes from a Marriage was episodic tv.
Ghulam wrote: "I just despair about the ability to create a culture where lots of people do terrible things that they know screw other people while it profits them. grrrr"
I recommend seeing The Corporation. This doc puts alot of blame on the soul-less beast called a corporation.........and how it came to be. Legally, it has the rights of a person but not the responsibilities. The problem is seen to be legal/governmental not moral. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:15 pm |
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| On my foreign film binge, I liked The Edukators and Look at Me a lot, and didn't like Tropical Malady. Look at Me was particularly well-observed, with most of the characters being shades of gray, Lolita's father being the darkest. I liked the woman playing the music teacher a lot (she also directed and co-wrote the film), and the woman playing the step-mother. Lolita's more ambiguous, and has a streak of thoughtlessness which she has to overcome. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:36 pm |
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I don't think Tropical Malady's been reviewed here. This is a Thai film which finished high in the Village Voice poll, but I found it disappointing. It falls neatly into two parts. It starts off with a group of Thai soldiers finding a dead body in a field, and they take it to a country town to dispose of it. As they take off, we see a naked man walking down a road unseen. This naked man is a shaman who we will not meet again until more than half way through the film.
One of the soldiers then goes to a big city (Bangkok, I assume), where he meets a young man from the country and tries to start a gay relationship. This takes place through a series of episodes, many of which go on too long, and some of which are irrelevant. This section really needs editing. I get the feeling it's padded to give the two sections of the film equal length.
The soldier then returns to the village where he overhears a report of a cow being killed by a monster. At this point the screen goes black for twenty or thirty seconds.
We are then told of a mysterious shaman who could take the form of animals and was once killed, but whose ghost still prowls the jungle. The soldier goes into the jungle to investigate. He comes across tracks of a wild animal, but as he follows them, they transform into human footprints. These are the prints of the naked and ghostly shaman, and for the rest of the movie the soldier will pursue and be pursued by the shaman. This is intended to parallel the first half of the movie.
This second section of the movie is much more effective, with great use of jungle scenery and sound effects, and I was creeped out during a lot of it. However, it's not enough to recommend the movie. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:58 pm |
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Here is another Indian art film for gromit. It's called MAYA (2001) directed by Digvijay Singh.
It deals with difficult subject matter but is excellent. I saw it at a film festival. |
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