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| jeremy |
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English, homosexual and, because most of his films were barely watchable, beloved of cinephiles.
His homo-erotic Caravaggio (one of his better films), was the first rated British film to feature an erect penis.
He also made the awful early punk film, Jubilee. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:55 am |
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| Sounds just like my cup of tea. I'd sure like to see an erect penis again. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:03 am |
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Oh I forgot, Jarman also made the Clash rockumentary Rude Boy. Yun Fat (erstwhile NYT forumite and hardcore cinephile) thought it one of the best rock ‘n’ roll films ever. I thought it an ok film, rescued by some of the best rock ‘n’ roll footage ever.
It was in a review of the film that I first became acquainted with the term 'subsistence sex'. |
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| Shane |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:12 am |
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'subsistence sex
Just enough to make it through the night? |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:21 am |
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Subsistence sex is indulging in sex to meet ones basic needs for sexual release or esteem, company, perhaps to boost your own self-esteem or even just to kill some time. The term implies not only a lack of intimacy or love, but almost a refusal, as might be the case with a one nightstand, say, to countenance the idea that it could be the start of something new, that it could mean something.
Maybe that's what you said...but more succinctly. |
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| Shane |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:27 am |
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| Gottit, thanks. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:30 am |
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Quote: the first rated British film to feature an erect penis.
In a non-speaking role, I assume.
Thanks Jeremy. I remember reading about Jarman when he died.
The correct title of Jarman's one film is The Last of England (not The Last Days, as I wrote earlier). I think that that and Edward II are available now. Seems that Jarman liked to purposely employ anachronisms to get at larger truths, or shake up viewers perceptions, or something. I usually like arty and/or experimental films. Have more trouble with standard fare. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:32 am |
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Your welcome. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:33 pm |
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Gromit: Hopper on!!!
Lady wrote: "And Befade, I saw Look At Her and liked it very much. I had seen a trailer for it which made me think it was a comedy. Well, it was in spots but I suppose if you don't speak French it doesn't translate very well. *sigh*"
Pretty sour comedy........I remember that trailer. I wonder if you've seen Holy Girl? I really appreciate the balance foreign films provide. You have to think, make connections, wonder at endings. None of the Hollywood spell-it-all-out, wrap-it-all-up, it's just entertainment, folks.
Holy Girl (Argentina) was produced by Pedro Almodovar. Plus* It is a very offbeat story of a Catholic girl looking for her mission in life. She turns to the man who has commited a subtle sexual assault against her. Saving him is the ticket. Meanwhile, her divorced mother is enamored of him.........Wonderful acting from the characters in this strange triangle. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:37 pm |
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Quote: Holy Girl (Argentina) was produced by Pedro Almodovar. Plus* It is a very offbeat story of a Catholic girl looking for her mission in life. She turns to the man who has commited a subtle sexual assault against her. Saving him is the ticket. Meanwhile, her divorced mother is enamored of him.........Wonderful acting from the characters in this strange triangle.
Saw the film in the theatre months ago. I don't think the relationship between the young girl and the man (the doctor) was as you described. |
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| jbottle |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:52 pm |
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"Subsistence sex is indulging in sex to meet ones basic needs for sexual release or esteem, company, perhaps to boost your own self-esteem or even just to kill some time. The term implies not only a lack of intimacy or love, but almost a refusal, as might be the case with a one nightstand, say, to countenance the idea that it could be the start of something new, that it could mean something."
Wait, what's the difference between that and........."sex." |
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| Shane |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:55 pm |
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She may not have put it the way you remember but others are seeing it that way as well:
Reviewed by Jamie Russell
Updated 02 February 2005 Contains moderate sex
Hormones and holiness make uneasy bedfellows in Lucrecia Martel's feverishly dreamlike drama La Niña Santa. The "holy girl" of the title is Amalia (Maria Alché), a sweet 16-year-old virgin who develops an unhealthily obsessive relationship with country doctor Jano (Carlos Belloso) after he gropes her in the street. Amalia is convinced God wants her to save Jano from himself but, as the unwitting doctor seduces her mother, it's not long before Catholic duty gives way to carnal longing.
A film review by Chris Barsanti
when one of the doctors in town for the conference comes up behind her and rubs up against her suggestively. They don’t say a word and she barely sees him as he scurries off. In what most would take as an unfortunate turn of events, this Dr. Jano (Carlos Belloso) is the man whom Amalia’s mother Helena (the impossibly beautiful Mercedes Morán) decides to spark up a relationship with. But Amalia seems to take this as a challenge, as she sets about trying to save Dr. Jano from his own darker impulses, a mission that takes on certain romantic shadings the more involved she gets.
Movie Chick Cherryl
Amalia is a student whose main course of study seems to be how to get and recognize a sign from God about her vocation. She's pretty clueless about this, until a medical convention comes to the hotel and one of the doctors, Dr. Jano (Carlos Belloso), behaves like a pervert and rubs up against Amalia on a crowded street. She's shocked, excited, confused, and determined to allow it to happen again - even as she is declaring that Dr. Jano is a "good man". Saving him (or seducing him) becomes her new mission. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:56 pm |
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Befade wrote: Gromit: Hopper on!!!
Lady wrote: "And Befade, I saw Look At Her and liked it very much. I had seen a trailer for it which made me think it was a comedy. Well, it was in spots but I suppose if you don't speak French it doesn't translate very well. *sigh*"
Pretty sour comedy........I remember that trailer. I wonder if you've seen Holy Girl? I really appreciate the balance foreign films provide. You have to think, make connections, wonder at endings. None of the Hollywood spell-it-all-out, wrap-it-all-up, it's just entertainment, folks.
Holy Girl (Argentina) was produced by Pedro Almodovar. Plus* It is a very offbeat story of a Catholic girl looking for her mission in life. She turns to the man who has commited a subtle sexual assault against her. Saving him is the ticket. Meanwhile, her divorced mother is enamored of him.........Wonderful acting from the characters in this strange triangle.
Actually, I didn't write that - I've never seen the movie. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:57 pm |
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This looks fun:
http://www.americanlaundromatrecords.com/highschoolreunion.html
Especially excited about Kirstin Hersh's cover of "Wave of Mutilation" from Pump Up the Volume and Frank Black's cover of "Repo Man" from same-named film. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:03 pm |
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Befade wrote:
Quote: Lady wrote: "And Befade, I saw Look At Her and liked it very much. I had seen a trailer for it which made me think it was a comedy. Well, it was in spots but I suppose if you don't speak French it doesn't translate very well. *sigh*"
Lady wrote
Quote: Actually, I didn't write that - I've never seen the movie.
That's because it was me!! He, he. |
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