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ehle64
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:31 am Reply with quote
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I haven't seen Ivans XTC, but I remember pokra championing it.

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marantzo
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:30 am Reply with quote
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Marc, your avatar looks like Patti Smith. Is it or am I way off base?
Marc
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:58 am Reply with quote
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it is Patti.
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Mr. Brownstone
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:08 pm Reply with quote
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She just opened for U2 here in NYC.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:11 pm Reply with quote
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Been watching the DVD and commentary tracks for Happy Endings. This may be the most severely underrated film of the year. Watch for its reputation to grow and grow. A future classic.
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billyweeds
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:13 pm Reply with quote
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If Happy Endings were in French, every critic would be screaming its praises. Very European in feel. Don Roos is a superb talent, both as writer and director. The kind of gay sensibility that never gets out of control but is always deliciously gay.
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Shane
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:47 pm Reply with quote
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The Edukators gave me thrills watching it in the full house at the festival this year.
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I think what was redeeming in light of the naive preaching was of course the writing on the wall at the end. To me this set the tone up to reality and was what constituted a kick in the teeth at all their predessors for the Yippie past. Believe in no one but yourself.
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Marc
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:03 am Reply with quote
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Just watched POINT OF ORDER. It's a compilation of available kinoscopes that director Emile de Antonio had access to in the early 1960s. I don't know how much of the over 200 hours of hearings he was able to get his hands on, but the 91 minute compression of information that comprises POINT OF ORDER is rivetting but ultimately unsatisfying. I wanted more. The film is not
a documentary. Its an abridgement of hearings that lasted for over 30 days.
Antonio lets the hearings speak for themselves. McCarthy and his anti-communist rants and paranoia make for some high drama, but if you're looking for a film that explains or dissects the hearings, you won't find that here. The hearings were so inherently dramatic that POINT OF ORDER does make for a fascinating 91 minutes.

POINT OF ORDER was edited down to 55 minutes for airing on televsion in 1975.
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Nancy
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:07 pm Reply with quote
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I think Point of Order must be the documentary I saw in film class years ago. It was fascinating. Just letting McCarthy rant on and on reveals so much more about him than any description can.

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Befade
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:19 pm Reply with quote
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Brownstone wrote: "She just opened for U2 here in NYC."

Oh my gosh! Did you see her? U2 alone is an experience. I've never seen Patti...........never had a chance to. What's she singing about now? Last I listened she was mourning the death of her husband.
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yambu
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:29 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 6441 Location: SF Bay Area
Nancy wrote:
.....Just letting McCarthy rant on and on reveals so much more about him than any description can.
I read somewhere that when Clooney's focus groups were shown the original TV clips, the audience thought "the McCarthy character" was overacting.
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marantzo
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:47 pm Reply with quote
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the audience thought "the McCarthy character" was overacting.

They were right. Joe had a problem with that.
billyweeds
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:02 pm Reply with quote
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Nancy wrote:
I think Point of Order must be the documentary I saw in film class years ago. It was fascinating. Just letting McCarthy rant on and on reveals so much more about him than any description can.


Just scored a rental of Point of Order! from my local video store. Got it until Tuesday night. This is major. It's a two-for-one, so got Last Days as well. This is one I never intended to see, but there's been so much talk hereabouts about it that I'm giving it a shot.
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ehle64
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:05 pm Reply with quote
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Way to go, billyweeds. Hopefully it won't be too much of a bad thing for you.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:21 pm Reply with quote
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ehle64 wrote:
Way to go, billyweeds. Hopefully it won't be too much of a bad thing for you.


Just watched Point of Order. Actually, there's no exclamation point on the screen title, and that's the Gospel for me, so no more exclamation point as part of the title. Anal much?

Great movie. The fact that Welch was speaking off the cuff is almost unbelievable. Does anyone think he suspected McCarthy might pull that Fred Fisher stunt and had the speech ready? What a speech, prepared or not!

Now it's time for Last Days (after a trashy vacation with Return to Peyton Place and The Grudge.
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