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| Marc |
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So far, we have 4 thumbs up for INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS. I'm waiting for the first dissenting opinion. Could this movie be one of the few we all agree upon?
As I was watching BASTERDS, I was prepared to give it a pan. But, the last chapter rescued it for me in the moment. As I thought about the film on the way home, my opinion changed in a positive direction. I'm still not sure of what to make of the film. That's one reason I'm hesitant to write a definitive review. I think I may have to see this one again. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:33 pm |
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Okay, before I see Inglorious Basterds (and I will), I just wanna know, do we actually see that bat connect with the head? *shudders*
There was also a film called Inglorious Bastards made decades ago. Any connection? |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:55 pm |
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ehle64 wrote: Okay, before I see Inglorious Basterds (and I will), I just wanna know, do we actually see that bat connect with the head? *shudders*
There was also a film called Inglorious Bastards made decades ago. Any connection?
Mostly the title. Tarantino apparently originally had some homages but dropped them as the movie evolved. |
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| Earl |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:27 pm |
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I took a nap this afternoon and had my phone in silent mode. When I woke I saw that there were two missed calls.
The first was from Joe asking if I'd like to go with him to see Inglourious Basterds, a movie I knew he'd been anxious to see for some time. The second call was also from Joe and it was a while later after he hadn't heard back from me. "Never mind the first message," he said. "I can't wait, so I'm just gonna go see it."
I couldn't help chuckling because I knew he didn't mean it in a bad way. It was kinda funny getting those two voice mails back-to-back like that. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:32 pm |
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The Inglorious Bastards is an Italian knock-off of The Dirty Dozen. It's not bad.
Tarantino bought the rights to the title with the intent of doing a remake. He changed course. The Inglourious Basterds (note the different spelling) is not remotely a re-make of the Italian film. Tarantino is just having fun with a few elements of the Italian film, including calling his hero Aldo Raine. Aldo Ray starred in the Italian film. |
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| McBain |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:32 am |
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Marc wrote: The Inglorious Bastards is an Italian knock-off of The Dirty Dozen. It's not bad.
Tarantino bought the rights to the title with the intent of doing a remake. He changed course. The Inglourious Basterds (note the different spelling) is not remotely a re-make of the Italian film. Tarantino is just having fun with a few elements of the Italian film, including calling his hero Aldo Raine. Aldo Ray starred in the Italian film.
I've pointed out to more than one person I know that the resemblance to "The Dirty Dozen" is very superficial. This film lacks a great many of the genre constructions that define a film like "The Dirty Dozen". The WWII caper film aspects are quite minor, its really not about that at all.
So, yeah, I agree with you, Marc. |
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| McBain |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:51 am |
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| The whistling of Twisted Nerve is the ringtone on my wife's phone. It's pretty funny when people hear it and recognize it but they aren't quite sure where they have heard it. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:03 am |
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Marc wrote: The Inglorious Bastards is an Italian knock-off of The Dirty Dozen. It's not bad.
Tarantino bought the rights to the title with the intent of doing a remake. He changed course. The Inglourious Basterds (note the different spelling) is not remotely a re-make of the Italian film. Tarantino is just having fun with a few elements of the Italian film, including calling his hero Aldo Raine. Aldo Ray starred in the Italian film.
I kept hearing Pitt's character's name as "Aldo Ray" anyway.
A lot of people think Christoph Waltz will get an Oscar nomination. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Laurent does as well. I'm doubt if Pitt has any chance although I like it as well as any performance of his I've seen. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:17 am |
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| Why do people say Pitt has no chance at a nomination? He's a superstar who got nominated for what was essentially a non-performance in Benjamin Button and once before for a wildly overacted travesty of a performance in Twelve Monkeys. If this is one of his good performances--some say his best--why should they not nominate him while considering the supporting people? I'm sure there's a decent explanation; I'd just like to hear it. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:19 am |
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| Btw, those little in jokes like naming Pitt's character after Aldo Ray are what really turn me off about filmmakers like Tarantino, who seem to have no life outside of the movies. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:23 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Why do people say Pitt has no chance at a nomination? He's a superstar who got nominated for what was essentially a non-performance in Benjamin Button and once before for a wildly overacted travesty of a performance in Twelve Monkeys. If this is one of his good performances--some say his best--why should they not nominate him while considering the supporting people? I'm sure there's a decent explanation; I'd just like to hear it.
He does have an excellent chance at a supporting nomination (and possible win) if he is actually promoted as a supporting actor, but so far he's been considered as a lead. It's hard to say how nominations will work out in an ensemble film. Christoph Waltz won the Best Actor award at Cannes for his role in the film, and Hollywood is just obstinate enough to give him a supporting nomination. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:47 am |
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Syd wrote: billyweeds wrote: Why do people say Pitt has no chance at a nomination? He's a superstar who got nominated for what was essentially a non-performance in Benjamin Button and once before for a wildly overacted travesty of a performance in Twelve Monkeys. If this is one of his good performances--some say his best--why should they not nominate him while considering the supporting people? I'm sure there's a decent explanation; I'd just like to hear it.
He does have an excellent chance at a supporting nomination (and possible win) if he is actually promoted as a supporting actor, but so far he's been considered as a lead. It's hard to say how nominations will work out in an ensemble film. Christoph Waltz won the Best Actor award at Cannes for his role in the film, and Hollywood is just obstinate enough to give him a supporting nomination.
Funny. Without having seen the movie, but considering Pitt's name and his billing and the fact that the role has been described as a new version of the Lee Marvin role in The Dirty Dozen, I assumed that he was the indisputable lead. Gotta see this flick soon. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:14 am |
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| Waltz has more screen time and probably more major scenes. He also has important scenes with all the other main characters. I don't remember Pitt and Laurent's characters ever meeting in the film, although they are in the same place at the same time. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:23 am |
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I doubt he'll get nominated because it's not an Oscar-style performance, and these sort of caricature roles never seem to register with people as examples of good acting, even though they are just as demanding as putting on/taking off 200 pounds, learning an accent, or pretending to have uncontrollable physical tics.
Billy,
I'm not so hot on Tarantino's inside jokes, either. And in the video/DVD age, encylopedic references are less an example of movie mania than a easy academic exercise. But Tarantino at his best is so much more than this. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:44 am |
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| That's why I was thinking supporting. It reminds me a bit of Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda, who actually won the Oscar. I can't think offhand of a similar performance that got nominated for lead actor. |
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