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Syd |
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:10 pm |
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I'm watching Anna Christie and Greta Garbo's performance is bothering me a little because her mannerisms remind me of some current actress. Any idea who it might be?
Good film so far. Marie Dressler is great as always. |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:50 pm |
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No idea, but since actresses have been trying to steal from Garbo since the 30's, it doesn't surprise me if someone right now is stealing a few of her tricks. |
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:14 pm |
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Whatever it was, it stopped when Anna and her father got on the coal barge and Garbo began to act more naturally. I see now why people liked the movie so much.
PS: I'm still not sure who she reminded me of, but there's a later profile shot where she looks amazing like Jane Curtin. I kid you not.
It gets stagey in places (it's a film of a Pulitzer-winning play), and Garbo seems awkward in her early scene and overacts at the climax, but the movie's stood the test of time very well considering it came out in 1930, and you have static camera and some actors playing to the rafters. I particularly like Marie Dressler, and she and Garbo are both excellent in their second encounter, which, apparently, was added for the movie, but it fits in seamlessly. This movie did a lot to launch Dressler's all-too brief career as a superstar.
PPS: Despite the tagline "Garbo Laughs!" for Ninotchka, she laughs quite a bit in Anna Christie. A lot of the movie is lighthearted despite Anna's Dark Secret Past. |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:46 am |
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And rumor has it that we don't hear her laugh at all in Ninotchka: it was dubbed by someone else. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:18 am |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:46 am |
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I have never been all that sold on Garbo. She's gorgeous, but in a very chilly way that doesn't include much sex appeal, and her acting goes in and out. She was an icon, no question, but her talents were a little overappreciated. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:11 am |
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billyweeds wrote: I have never been all that sold on Garbo. She's gorgeous, but in a very chilly way that doesn't include much sex appeal, and her acting goes in and out. She was an icon, no question, but her talents were a little overappreciated.
That's my feeling about her also. Of the movies I've seen her in, I have only really liked her work in the comic roles. |
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Rod |
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:19 am |
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I've heard it hinted that Garbo was probably a lesbian and her unusual screen sexuality was a byproduct thereof.
As to her acting, I went back and dug up this comment of mine from a review of Camille a couple of years ago:
Quote: Garbo, as in Grand Hotel, strikes me as a contradiction; her style of acting is very dated, all gestures, glances, and flighty movements, yet she she had an exact idea of how far to, so nothing becomes corny or showy, and she pumps all the moves with an emotional genuiness that sustains her.
Here's a good appreciation of Garbo from Slant Magazine, including the following gem:
Quote: she always subjugates her leading men, grabbing them bodily and getting on top, taking the masculine position for kissing. This was just natural to Garbo, and it was a large part of her subversive quality. Garbo's sublime lesbian authoritativeness worked best, of course, with slightly nelly men.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/dvd_review.asp?ID=750 |
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marantzo |
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:28 am |
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Quote: I've heard it hinted that Garbo was probably a lesbian and her unusual screen sexuality was a byproduct thereof.
I don't think there was any 'probably' about it. She was. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:33 am |
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I believe she was bi, but no matter.
I disagree about Garbo's skills. I recently saw The Mysterious Lady (review on my site), and I was mightily impressed with her nuanced performance. Yes, she's beautiful, and that can be a way to dismiss her skills. But she's got them, seeing her transform from a lover to a hater, watching her confused and hunted as she tries to protect the man she loves. It's really a fantastic performance. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:37 am |
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From what I have read about her, she didn't seem to have any real male lovers, but it was a long time ago and I could be wrong. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:49 am |
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I find it interesting that as women became liberated in the '20's, they tended to have page-boy haircuts, and then two androgynous Euros, Marlene Dietrich and Great Garbo, became big stars. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:51 pm |
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The Sewing Circle is a good read. I suggest a few people to consult it before throwing around accusations. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:57 pm |
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When my mother was a student in New York in the 1940's, she saw Garbo at the health food store they both shopped at. She remembered that Garbo had big feet. |
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Nancy |
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:01 pm |
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gromit wrote: I find it interesting that as women became liberated in the '20's, they tended to have page-boy haircuts, and then two androgynous Euros, Marlene Dietrich and Great Garbo, became big stars.
Well, hauling around a ton of hair gets heavy. No wonder they started bobbing it. (I'm speaking as someone who does haul around a ton of hair, simply because I like it. Short hair is just too much trouble to deal with.) |
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