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| lady wakasa |
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Actually, I take that back. These are turning out to be pretty lame questions (even the UPC code).
The rest about DVD Beaver is true, though. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:15 pm |
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Applied for the DVD. Hoping.
ehle--I reiterate the "terrible" adjective about Fahrenheit 451. The movie was so dull it forfeited the political statement. Wordiness is not a good argument against book-burning. And Werner and Christie were unexciting. IMO--and I'm a huge Truffaut fan--it was one of his few total failures. Partly a language thing, I'm sure. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:20 pm |
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ehle64 wrote: I really wanted to see EttG at its Film Forum run last year, but never seemed to be able to make it so I am very excited about this.
Been watching the latest Criterion/Malle collaboration -- Three Films of Louis Malle: Murmur of the Heart; Lacombe, Lucien; and Au revoir les enfants. We watched the first two already and the third is in my queue. I seem to remember having seen ARlE before, but need to see it again after such a timespan.
So what's your opinion of those Malles?
I've never seen any of his films.
Well, except for his short film as part of Spirits of the Dead collaboration film. His segment was probably the best of the three.
I have, but haven't watched Pretty Baby and Vanya on 42nd St.
Would like to see Elevator, Dinner with Andre, and Atlantic City.
Just looked it up, and Murmur sounds pretty good. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:12 pm |
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I saw Elevator to the Gallows when it was released in NYC and aside from the Miles Davis soundtrack I found it quite disappointing. I was heavily into the Godard, Truffaud, Resnais, Antonioni, Fellini, Wadja and all the other great foreign directors. I was expecting a great time at the movie house. It wasn't.
You can count me in with Billy on the Farenheit 451 anti-bandwagon. What a colosal disappointment. Made all the worse for an ending that was positively cringe-inducingly dreadful. |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:17 pm |
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| Lacombe, Lucien is my favorite Malle. Brilliant. |
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| dlhavard |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:18 pm |
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Quote: You can count me in with Billy on the Farenheit 451 anti-bandwagon. What a colosal disappointment. Made all the worse for an ending that was positively cringe-inducingly dreadful.
I never understood that. The book was excellent. The movie, at least the first part of it wasn't bad. (Old lady standing in the middle of her books and lighting a match - whew!)
As for the rest - SNORE! (Never even understood the part about two Julie Christies!) |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:34 pm |
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| Yes, the book was excellent and I would have thought that a good director, never mind a great ndirector, could have had a pretty easy time making a good movie from it. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:35 pm |
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| Kael's review is hilarious, pointing out the bad logic of the movie. Never saw it myself, but then I'm not a Bradbury fan and English-language Truffaut sounds like a mistake. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:41 pm |
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| It was, Joe. In just about every way you could imagine. |
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| dlhavard |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:17 pm |
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Oskar Werner should take some of the "credit". He was so passive that even when he was active - he was passive!
Don't laugh, but I could see "Arnuld" in the part, as a sort of "dumb brute" slowing learning the beauty of books and words. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:50 pm |
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tirebiter wrote: Lacombe, Lucien is my favorite Malle. Brilliant.
It might end up being mine as well. I favored it highly over Murmur of The Heart. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:52 pm |
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| Yeah, there's no question that F451 is bad, but for me, not being a sci-fi fan, it sure as hell was an interesting 2 hours. The comments on the ending are so true, never read the book, but sure did have quite a giggle over "the book people". |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:03 pm |
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I haven't seen Murmer of the Heart in about 20 years, but I remember liking it at the time, and being irritated over critics just not getting it,
**SPOILER**
expecting a serious examination of incest and condemning the movie for not being one, rather than it as the comedy it was. |
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| Kate |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:47 pm |
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We saw Pride and Prejudice this weekend and I loved, loved, loved it. I found both Keira Knightly and Matthew Macfadyen to be perfectly cast. I don’t think KK was too beautiful for this role; they did a very good job of making her quite plain looking. She really is wonderful here, a true testament to her skills. MM was marvelous as Darcy as well. The smallest touches to convey the depth of his feeling for her were wonderful; the slight flex of his hand after helping her into the carriage was delightful. I am in love with this Darcy. It is strange as he is not classically good looking man but by the end I was captivated by him. This was exquisitely romantic as it is supposed to be and I found the ending very satisfying and fitting. I also quite liked the whole idea of the first dance to be a raucous and noisily joyous affair.
All in all, a very good time and a truly lovely film.
That said, I agree with everyone about the mother and with Befade about the extras on the DVD. The general praise for her was totally off the mark – after all – she was very willing to sacrifice Elizabeth to Collins without a care. I don’t understand how anyone could think she as other than a rather foolish and selfish woman. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:19 pm |
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I don’t think KK was too beautiful for this role; they did a very good job of making her quite plain looking.
Though I have argued against the people who said she was too beautiful for the role, I certainly don't think she looks "plain." She's far from gorgeous, however, and falls into the "quirky and interesting" look. |
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