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| billyweeds |
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mo_flixx wrote: billyweeds wrote: However, Julie Christie was (before her recent plastic surgery) a breathtakingly beautiful woman. I still remember seeing her live in Uncle Vanya (I sat verrrry close) and being blown away--not by her quite mediocre performance but by her sensational physical affect.
Do you happen to have any links for photos of Christie after surgery? I don't think I've seen any of her since then.
She had clearly had surgery before that movie she did with Nick Nolte (can't remember the title). She was still pretty (not gorgeous) but almost unrecognizable as the same person. |
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| Earl |
| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:20 am |
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Re Julie Christie:
billyweeds wrote: She had clearly had surgery before that movie she did with Nick Nolte (can't remember the title). She was still pretty (not gorgeous) but almost unrecognizable as the same person.
I'm catching up on the last couple days of posts. While reading the Julie Christie discussion "that movie she did with Nick Nolte" was the first thing I thought of and I couldn't recall the title either. It invariably eludes me when it comes time to remember it. I always just think of it as "that movie she did with Nick Nolte" and on a good day I might remember that Alan Rudolph directed it. This time I came close. I thought the title might be "Moonglow." IMDB informs me that it is Afterglow. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:36 am |
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Earl wrote: Re Julie Christie:
billyweeds wrote: She had clearly had surgery before that movie she did with Nick Nolte (can't remember the title). She was still pretty (not gorgeous) but almost unrecognizable as the same person.
I'm catching up on the last couple days of posts. While reading the Julie Christie discussion "that movie she did with Nick Nolte" was the first thing I thought of and I couldn't recall the title either. It invariably eludes me when it comes time to remember it. I always just think of it as "that movie she did with Nick Nolte" and on a good day I might remember that Alan Rudolph directed it. This time I came close. I thought the title might be "Moonglow." IMDB informs me that it is Afterglow.
Right. LOL. I guess this proves it's a generic and therefore rotten title. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:15 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Earl wrote: Re Julie Christie:
billyweeds wrote: She had clearly had surgery before that movie she did with Nick Nolte (can't remember the title). She was still pretty (not gorgeous) but almost unrecognizable as the same person.
I'm catching up on the last couple days of posts. While reading the Julie Christie discussion "that movie she did with Nick Nolte" was the first thing I thought of and I couldn't recall the title either. It invariably eludes me when it comes time to remember it. I always just think of it as "that movie she did with Nick Nolte" and on a good day I might remember that Alan Rudolph directed it. This time I came close. I thought the title might be "Moonglow." IMDB informs me that it is Afterglow.
Right. LOL. I guess this proves it's a generic and therefore rotten title.
The last time I described a movie that way I was called lazy, but at least no one said I had a senior moment!
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| Mr. Brownstone |
| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:46 am |
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Julie Christie gave a baffling performance as Gertrude in Branagh's Hamlet.
I never saw Afterglow; I think it came out the same year that Peter Fonda had a big indie comeback movie (something about bees?); I didn't bother with either, as I've never been that impressed with either all that much. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:54 am |
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Mr. Brownstone wrote: Julie Christie gave a baffling performance as Gertrude in Branagh's Hamlet.
I never saw Afterglow; I think it came out the same year that Peter Fonda had a big indie comeback movie (something about bees?); I didn't bother with either, as I've never been that impressed with either all that much.
Peter Fonda was nominated for the Oscar for Ulee's Gold, the bee movie. He was thoroughly forgettable in the role, and the movie was a complete snoozer. The most memorable aspect of it is that "Ulee" is now a popular crossword answer. The definition is always something like "Fonda beekeeper" or ""Fonda Oscar-nominated role" or something. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:57 am |
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Today, I picked up Nicholas Ray's The Savage Innocents, and Preston Sturges' Miracle of Morgan Creek.
Unfortunately, I hesitated on Theo van Gogh's Interview and The Long Goodbye, and now can't find either.
I didn't realize the Sokurov chat was in Current Film. If anyone wants to continue anything about Sokurov or Tarkovsky's Andrei Rublev, this is probably a better place. |
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| Earl |
| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:58 am |
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Mr. Brownstone wrote: Julie Christie gave a baffling performance as Gertrude in Branagh's Hamlet.
I never saw Afterglow; I think it came out the same year that Peter Fonda had a big indie comeback movie (something about bees?); I didn't bother with either, as I've never been that impressed with either all that much.
Baffling how? I don't mean to be argumentative and I'm not saying you're wrong, since we all appreciate art in our own ways. In previous discussions of Hamlet, particularly Kenneth Branagh's, you've made some observations which got me thinking about the play and that film in new ways, so I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this.
Now the Peter Fonda title I know without having to look it up because it pops up in the crossword regularly: Ulee's Gold. A name like "Ulee" with four letters, three of them vowels, is mother's milk to cruciverbalists. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:59 am |
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| Well damn, Billy, you beat me to it! |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:11 pm |
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Earl wrote: Well damn, Billy, you beat me to it!
The crossword connection is the only thing that keeps Ulee's Gold in my mind. What a snoozerama!
Ina Balin's reputation has been enhanced by crosswords, too. "Actress Balin" or "Balin and Claire" (Inas). Eero (Saarinen) is well-known to many non-architecture buffs through...crosswords. Gimme some more, Earl! |
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| Earl |
| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:31 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Earl wrote: Well damn, Billy, you beat me to it!
The crossword connection is the only thing that keeps Ulee's Gold in my mind. What a snoozerama!
Ina Balin's reputation has been enhanced by crosswords, too. "Actress Balin" or "Balin and Claire" (Inas). Eero (Saarinen) is well-known to many non-architecture buffs through...crosswords. Gimme some more, Earl!
Romanian tennis player Ilie Nastase, Author Ira Levin (he wrote a letter to the NY Times complaining that the retiremant accounts called I.R.A. made him a less frequent clue), Actress Uma Thurman, Singer Yma Sumac. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:37 pm |
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Earl:
This may not be entirely Christie's fault, and in fact is primarily the fault of Branagh's direction, now that I think of it.
Gertrude's big speech where she describes Ophelia's death (do I need a spoiler)... in a script that has numerous images described through speech, this is one of the most illustrative, and the images it evokes only makes it haunting. Add to this the obvious questions it introduces (if Gertrude can describe in such accurate detail the entire sequence leading to Ophelia's death, what as she doing there while Ophelia drowned?), and it's baffling that Branagh would refrain from showing us any images about Ophelia's process leading up to the drowning, when the strongest aspect of Branagh's direction is images like Priam's fight and Hamlet & Ophelia in bed and Claudius poisoning Old Hamlet, all things described by characters in text.
Add to this the choice to have Christie play the speech as if catatonic, does nothing to address this either.
To sum up, it's just baffling that in a 4 hour film in which characters' descriptions of events are illustrated for us so vividly, the monumental moment of a major character describing the death of another major character to not be illustrated is just baffling.
To go further and have Christie's Gertrude physically and emotionally unable to be illustrative or descriptive only adds to my bewilderment. |
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billyweeds wrote: mo_flixx wrote: billyweeds wrote: However, Julie Christie was (before her recent plastic surgery) a breathtakingly beautiful woman. I still remember seeing her live in Uncle Vanya (I sat verrrry close) and being blown away--not by her quite mediocre performance but by her sensational physical affect.
Do you happen to have any links for photos of Christie after surgery? I don't think I've seen any of her since then.
She had clearly had surgery before that movie she did with Nick Nolte (can't remember the title). She was still pretty (not gorgeous) but almost unrecognizable as the same person.
what plastic surgery??- she didn't look any different in AfterGlow - just older - she is one of the few actresses who while very attractive, looks her age |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:08 pm |
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Tim - Thanks. I remember now that you wondered why we didn't get an onscreen depiction of Gertrude's description of Ophelia's death, but, as you said above, that was more Branagh's decision than hers. An unlikely theory: Perhaps Branagh wanted to put more up there, but the budget and/or the shooting schedule limited what he could do. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because I cherish that film.
And all this Christie talk reminds me that she's playing the role of Madama Rosmerta in the Harry Potter series of films and we haven't heard much lately from the youngest of our brood, movielover14. You still out there? |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:33 pm |
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gromit wrote: Today, I picked up Nicholas Ray's The Savage Innocents, and Preston Sturges' Miracle of Morgan Creek.
Unfortunately, I hesitated on Theo van Gogh's Interview and The Long Goodbye, and now can't find either.
I didn't realize the Sokurov chat was in Current Film. If anyone wants to continue anything about Sokurov or Tarkovsky's Andrei Rublev, this is probably a better place.
Sorry.
I originally posted about Sokurov in Current Film because "The Sun" (2005) IS a current film in Paris. As far as I know, it hasn't yet come out in the U.S.
As more and more films come out on DVD so quickly (especially in your part of the world), this may become problematic.
Then there's the example of "Bubble," which came out in theaters and on DVD at the same time in the U.S. |
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