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Ghulam |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:34 pm |
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I believe H & F was reviewed by A.O. Scott. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:38 pm |
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Ghulam wrote: I believe H & F was reviewed by A.O. Scott.
It was, but "The Man," as Movie City News calls Dargis, has been discontent with holding her peace and keeps registering her extreme displeasure with the movie whenever the subject comes up, or sometimes, as in yesterday's column, when it doesn't. |
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Trish |
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Trish |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:01 pm |
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Quote: Sundance Nurtures Lowbrow and High
Alan Spearman/Crunk Pictures
From left, Taraji Henson, Paula Jai Parker, Terrence Howard and Taryn Manning in Craig Brewer's "Hustle & Flow," one of the more commercial films to be shown at this year's Sundance Film Festival.
By MANOHLA DARGIS
Published: January 27, 2005
Correction Appended
PARK CITY, Utah, Jan. 26 - Rarely is the tension between art and industry more naked than it is at the Sundance Film Festival. Now in its 21st year, Sundance has in the past decade managed to muscle its way to the front of an increasingly overcrowded festival landscape to become, for better and sometimes for worse, the most important such event in North America. Sundance is indispensable, unavoidable and all but bulletproof, even when its movies are not.
Geography helps. Less than two hours on a plane and a few hops in a car are all that lie between the movie industry in Los Angeles and this Utah resort. Once a year, this ski town briefly transforms into a very concentrated, by turns unpleasantly frenetic and exhilarating trade show. And because most of the more commercially promising features that don't yet have distribution are now front-loaded into the festival's first few days, the gathering has also become a weekend-getaway affair for industry heavy-hitters on the hunt for the next big thing. The festival officially wraps Sunday, when all the various prizes are doled out by the various juries, but in a real sense, Sundance was over on Monday.
Although the world premieres continued past the opening weekend, this year Sundance came both to a head and a premature close with the Saturday evening screening of the most hotly anticipated title of the festival, "Hustle & Flow." Written and directed by the newcomer Craig Brewer, the film opened to an audience jammed with executives, including the co-chief operating officer of Viacom, Paramount's parent company, and a healthy sampling of the film's cast and crew, who laughed and cheered to the hip-hop beats and pervasive raunch.
Both "Hustle & Flow" and the industry's desperation to embrace it were best expressed by the disquieting image of one of Paramount's top female executives laughing at one of the film's vulgarisms, which runs along the lines of "Are a pig's genitals pork?," but uglier.
Presented as a touching and uplifting story about a pimp and his ho's, the film is a tissue of clichés that were already exhausted when the Dead End Kids roamed the Warner Brothers back lot in the 1930's. Although it features a strong lead performance from Terrence Howard, similarly compelling in another festival entry, George C. Wolfe's "Lackawanna Blues," "Hustle & Flow" is rubbish. But it is precisely the kind of rubbish movie executives seek at Sundance, hoping that the film's beats, pimp hero and putative exoticism will attract young audiences. For those industry types, Sundance has become a fountain of youth, a place to troll for new talent that can be folded into the mainstream (like the "X-Men" director and Sundance alum Bryan Singer) and inspire enthusiasm both within its ranks and within the equally youth-obsessed media.
In the last decade, the movie industry has undergone significant changes - notably with the entrenchment of studio specialty divisions and a surge in accessible digital tools - which have effectively rendered moot longstanding arguments about independent cinema. The bottom line is that these days, independent film is at once dead and very much alive, ingrained in the movie mainstream and also running free. And just as there are now at least two independent-film movements, so, too, are there now two Sundance festivals: one that caters to the needs of the movie industry, say, by offering numerous world premieres, and one that makes a home for films like William Greaves's engrossing experimental feature "Symbiopsychotaxiplasm: Take 2½," which hew their own course and reaffirm the too-often forgotten point that authentic independent cinema is independent in vision, not just in financing.
During the 1990's, as indie film became a marketable brand for Hollywood - the fruits are evident in this year's Academy Award nominations - it often seemed that art was taking a backseat to industry at Sundance. Midway through this year's festival, however, it looks as if Sundance has arrived at a compromise that satisfies the industry and still makes room for more genuinely alternative, less commercially viable productions. Support for the latter is especially crucial, because while independent cinema is thriving, it is not in its efflorescence, and renegade spirits need all the help they can get. There are young directors here slick enough to slide into the studio system, but too few with the guts and the vision to stray from three acts or to offer characters with inner lives, not just arcs.
Still, there were signs of encouragement, including one from Seattle, the setting for Robinson Devor's dreamily poetic "Police Beat," and from Butte, Mont., the location of a formally ambitious fiction-nonfiction hybrid from Travis Wilkerson called "Who Killed Cock Robin?" Both films have a strong sense of place, a kind of site-specific practice that in the wake of the post-Tarantino explosion in genre filmmaking appeared to have largely gone missing in independent cinema.
Mr. Wilkerson's film concerns three friends struggling in a ghost town haunted by the spirits of the radical left. Mr. Devor's film centers on a lovelorn bicycle cop from Senegal who crosses the geography of the human heart as he travels a landscape shaped by crime, both brutal and comic, and all manner of human folly. It's too early to tell whether films like these represent an emergent regionalism, but they suggest that at least some filmmakers have their sights fixed on points beyond Los Angeles and New York.
Sundance's evolving commitment to cinema outside the United States, evident in its establishment of competitions for both foreign dramatic and documentary features, has been equally encouraging. The hope is that this sort of institutional support can help create new audiences for Chinese films like "Yang Ban Xi: The 8 Model Works," an absorbing, shrewdly intelligent documentary from Yan Ting Yuen about the propaganda operas that were the only film stories allowed during the Cultural Revolution. As Ms. Yan makes clear, it can be tough breaking from official thinking, something that observers of American independent cinema know full well. |
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Marc |
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Marc |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:16 pm |
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Dargis's take on HUSTLE & FLOW is one dimensional. We all agree that HUSTLE uses classic Hollywood riffs/cliches, but its what the film does with them that makes it interesting. I didn't know the Dead End Kids were into hip hop. There are archetypal stories that will be told over and over again for as long as there are storytellers. Its how you do it that counts. I think HUSTLE & FLOW takes some classic plot lines and invigorates them. |
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Mr. Brownstone |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:42 pm |
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Dargis is awfully bitter. Her smear on Sean Penn and his father was unconscionable. |
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bocce |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:25 pm |
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i've always been interested in the criteria being used in any artistic criticism and the background of the critic vis a vis their credibilty...
for instance, vasari had sufficient credibility based on his being an artist himself and personally familiar with some of the rennaissance artists he includes in LIVES OF THE PAINTERS. several other art historians have gained credibility based on years of study (bernard berenson, kenneth clark...to name the more familiar).
the major shift came in the 60's with susan sontag et al who had credibility judging one medium assuming that their criteria could apply to all. this was informed by a european trend that wished to group all artistic endeavor under a similar umbrella (paul ricouer, roland barthes, etc.). they looked for a dynanically unifying critical point of view.
well, it really doesen't work that way...music is as DIFFERENT from the visual arts as poetry is from photography. they can describe one another, but they are totally different intrinsically. and their critics should be as well.
as such, i'm interested in what background a given critic brings with them to the specific medium they are attempting to assess. i can see ebert's, what's ms. dargis claim to fame? |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:14 pm |
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Mr. Brownstone wrote: Dargis is awfully bitter. Her smear on Sean Penn and his father was unconscionable.
Tim--Remind me what the smear entailed. |
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lady wakasa |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:46 pm |
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Befade wrote: Lady wrote: "Does it matter?"
It must matter to Dargis to be the only exception to the rule......and it makes me curious.
It may be as simple as she likes walking down the street undisturbed. Don't think it has much to do with her reviewing style, acerbic though it is. |
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Mr. Brownstone |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:14 pm |
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As I've often cited, Penn's sneering mistrust of Hollywood is very strongly possibly stems from the fact that his father, a veteran of WWII and a theatre & tv director, was blacklisted, and couldn't work for a dozen years or so.
Dargis, in reviewing a biography of Sean Penn, insinuates that Penn's father was not actually blacklisted, but just wasn't offered any work.
It's just so... ugly. Firstly, she insinuates, without a shred of proof (in fact, all proof is to the contrary), that Leo Penn wasn't actually blacklisted. So she delegitimizes the indignities Sean's father was forced to endure.
And to what end would Dargis do this? To justify her apparent obsession, which is the deflating of public personas of movie stars. Sean Penn's mistrust of Hollywood can't stem from the betrayal his father suffered at the hands of a system caving in to political hysteria to ensure its bucks keep rolling in, she argues. Sean Penn's daddy wasn't locked out of work because he was unjustly accused of being a communist after all; he just wasn't a very good artist.
This allows Dargis to dismiss any legitimacy that Sean's antagonistic apathy to Hollywood might hold; he's just a spoiled brat.
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Marc |
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sioux |
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I can never remember specifics about films long after I've seen them so I can't give any in depth comments about Hustle and Flow - when I saw it, I liked it. And yeah, ehle - I made that line my tag line, and I haven't heard a better line since. Which speaks to the quantity of my movie going as much as anything.
If someone had raved about it to me, I think my reaction might have been different - I went not even knowing what it was about. I did post here after, though I think I might have been the lone person here who saw it in the theater, so there was no reaction. My reaction at the time was basically - to describe the movie by what happens would be to describe a film I would never like, but, well, seeing it...Terrance Howard gave a wonderful performance, and one of the female leads (the sweet faced one that sang the main melody of the song) was even better, and a few weeks after I saw Hustle and Flow I saw both of them in radically different roles in The Four Brothers, which impressed me even more.
I haven't seen many of this year's films so I can't really judge, but as I was watching it, I thought of it as a quiet, understated film in many ways. I've since seen Terrance Howard in many things, and I really now think - this was his vehicle and he went for it.
And just thinking about it has put the hook of that song back in my head... |
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Mr. Brownstone |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:27 pm |
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Thanks, marc. |
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Nancy |
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:42 pm |
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Mr. Brownstone wrote: Dargis, in reviewing a biography of Sean Penn, insinuates that Penn's father was not actually blacklisted, but just wasn't offered any work.
And the difference is? Certainly none, to those who experienced it. We studied the blacklist in film class. It was a disgusting, shameful episode in this country's past. It destroyed careers and lives. Anyone who was touched by that has the right to be bitter. Dargis must be an idiot. |
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