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yambu
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:38 pm Reply with quote
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Rod wrote:
the irritating tendency of people I often hear talking who were young and semi-hippie at the time of its release to moan about how it all seems so long ago and saying "I watched it now I'd find it terribly..." like I've heard said about many a great '60s film like Easy Rider ......God I just want to jab people like that in the eye with a fork.
I was young, though not remotely hip. I watch it now and find it terribly corny, or at least large chunks of it. The Luana Anders/Peter Fonda conversations are embarrassing.
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Marc
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:51 pm Reply with quote
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I watch it now and find it terribly corny, or at least large chunks of it.


for every corny scene there's something wonderful like the stoned campfire scene with Nicholson riffing on UFOS.
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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:34 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
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I watch it now and find it terribly corny, or at least large chunks of it.


for every corny scene there's something wonderful like the stoned campfire scene with Nicholson riffing on UFOS.


Nicholson gives a great, great performance in Easy Rider, one which rightfully made him a star. But for me that performance is the only thing in the movie that is even remotely good. It is otherwise an unremitting piece of crap.
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Marc
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:40 am Reply with quote
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It is otherwise an unremitting piece of crap.


Not when you're 18 and its 1969.
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Rod
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:55 am Reply with quote
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I watched Easy Rider about three years ago as a part of the Edge Cinema in Katoomba. I saw it with a crowdthat was a mixture of the type of older people I mentioned above and a lot of young folk like me of hippie or semi-hippie sensibilities, including a group who were still teens. At the end, one girl amongst the latter group was utterly distraught and had to be held up by her friends as she screamed, "It was so sad!"

That's what a wallop it still packs.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:48 am Reply with quote
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Does Price play the music in O Lucky Man! alone? I seem to remember a band, and the camera swirling around them in almost a steadycam fashion (I took the look at the end of The Doors, with the band in the studio, to be lifted from this earlier movie). But only Price is listed on IMDB.

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Marc
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:54 am Reply with quote
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Just watched Rob Zombie's THE DEVIL'S REJECTS. Its a surprisingly well-crafted and acted homage to TEXAS CHAINSAW and THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Great Southern rock soundtrack. William Forsythe is terrific as an avenging cop who is as psychotic as the killers he is pursuing. The movie is filled with funny inside film jokes and over-the-top violence. It is, however, not in the least bit frightening.Still I recommend it.
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Rod
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:55 am Reply with quote
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No the whole set appears playing with him, and also in the film - Travis gets a lift with them at one point. They fill the picaresque narrative function of a gang of roaming troubadors.
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Marc
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:56 am Reply with quote
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That's what a wallop it still packs.


When I saw EASY RIDER in 1969 the ending blew me away. It played into the real tension that existed between certain "straights" and hippies.

When I was 17 years old I had the shit beat out of me in Wells, Neveda by a couple of truck drivers who hated my long hair.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:28 am Reply with quote
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Thanks, Rod.

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Rod
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:03 am Reply with quote
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As Marantzo once referred to me on the old NYT fora, I am your reliable low-rent intellect.
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jeremy
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:09 am Reply with quote
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I'd aspire to be that.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:25 am Reply with quote
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Rod,

If you're low-rent, it's only because no one's recognized the value of the property.

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Marc
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:28 am Reply with quote
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If you're low-rent, it's only because no one's recognized the value of the property.


gag me with a spoon.
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:02 am Reply with quote
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When I saw Easy Rider I was 29 or so, so I wasn't exactly young. I loved it. I've seen it since and though it has some sub-par snippets here or there, I still loved it. I never did like the Fonda acid trip. Not when I first saw it or on repeated viewings. The UFO conversation was brilliant and apparently Nicholson just winged it. What a lot of people might not realise is that Fonda is supposed to be an unrealistic dreamer. That's why some of his dialogue might sound cornball. For instance, when they are with that couple? who have this god forsaken piece of land that they intend to grow things on, Fonda says in his optimistic and love and peace way, "They'll make it" Hopper retorts with something like, "No they won't, nothing will grow on that land, it's sand!" Hopper is the realistic one, Fonda is in a delusional 'everything is good' dream.

It's a funny and sad movie with terrific energy. And visually it's a pleasure.

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