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jeremy
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:43 am Reply with quote
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The sixties andseventies are often referred to as the golden age of British television, but peoples' collective memories tends to play tricks, filtering out the grey and the boring and enhancing and exaggerating the good. There were a few gems, but there was also an awful lot of rubbish.

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gromit
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:45 am Reply with quote
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Watched La Haine last night.
Pretty powerful stuff.
Smart choice to do it in black and white.
Recent riots peaked my interest.

Not sure what the gun laws are in France. Maybe more like Britain. Seemed like having a gun was a big deal in the film, while in America they give them out as Christmas presents.

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marantzo
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:11 am Reply with quote
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I can't think of a western democracy that has a gun policy within the same universe as the one in the U.S. And the dictatatorships, certainly not.
yambu
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:21 am Reply with quote
Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 6441 Location: SF Bay Area
Reading about these French riots, it's clear these rampaging kids can't get ahold of anything more lethal than pellet guns.
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Marilyn
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:24 am Reply with quote
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 8210 Location: Skokie (not a bad movie, btw)
Fire has been known to kill. So have rocks.

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Mr. Brownstone
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:28 pm Reply with quote
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Maybe if they could get ahold of a decent job interview they wouldn't need rocks or fire.

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Marilyn
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:29 pm Reply with quote
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We were talking about weapons they had access to, not jobs that they don't.

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Mr. Brownstone
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:25 pm Reply with quote
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"We were talking about weapons they had access to, not jobs that they don't."

I was making a joke. LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP.

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Marilyn
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:56 pm Reply with quote
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That was a joke???? I don't need to lighten up. You need to improve your joke-telling.

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bocce
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:43 pm Reply with quote
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whoa, brownie...

you're now in the neverending queue of people who OWE marilyn an apology...

but fear not, i'm at thirty seven and counting down.

actually, you're right. even the more rightist LE MONDE considers the roots of this to be more economic than racial or religious and LE FIGARO (leftist) agrees. i skim them pretty much daily since i'll be in paris over christmas.

i'm not particularly concerned about personal safety, but the french do need to address their immigration policy as do we.
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Marilyn
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:48 pm Reply with quote
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You never stop needling me, do you, Bocce? Bored with your day?

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bocce
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:54 pm Reply with quote
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Marilyn wrote:
He just likes to say I don't know shit about stuff. It's his version of sweet talk.


there you are...
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Marilyn
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:55 pm Reply with quote
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*sigh*

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Mr. Brownstone
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:45 pm Reply with quote
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"That was a joke???? I don't need to lighten up. You need to improve your joke-telling."

Marilyn, I think you thought I was lecturing you when I wasn't. Perhaps I was being flippant rather than joking, but either way, I understood perfectly what you were discussing, and it seemed your response to my flip post wasn't clarifying as much as it was a dismissal.

When you said "we were discussing" what you made clear was that the "we" did not include me, and I took a little umbrage at being purposefully excluded, hence the flip comment.

Between your recommendation about joke improvement and marantz's constant complaint that everyone who disagrees with him or even has a different perspective is simply too stupid to understand his posts, you guys are getting a little didactic.

I sincerely meant to make a flip comment and thought a person as witty as yourself, with whom I share similar political leanings, would have recognized the humor, even if it was barely humorous.

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Shane
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:54 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 1168 Location: Chicago
I got it, but who am I?
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