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| marantzo |
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ehle64 wrote: gromit wrote: and hated Tango. 
I'm with you, ehle. |
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| Nancy |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:11 pm |
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gromit wrote: Last Tango in Paris bored me more thoroughly and profoundly than any other film in memory.
I also found it incredibly boring, though it was exceeded by Last Year At Marienbad. (Maybe it's a "Last" thing.......) |
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| Marilyn |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:18 pm |
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| I loved Last Tango in Paris, but then I saw it when I was a freshman in college, and I'd never seen anything like it before. It has one line that has stayed with me, Brando saying to Schneider "....you'll be playing soccer with your tits." |
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| Marilyn |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:27 pm |
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| I had one of the most moving experiences of my film-going life: saw Kenji Mizoguchi's Sansho the Bailiff today. This film shows the incredible brutality of slavery in 12th century Japan, yet cleaves to principles of kindness and fair play to see its aristocratic family--driven into exile, slavery, and prostitution by its very kindness--through. One wishes that the costs hadn't been so high for them. While upholding their values, it is hard not to notice that the family has been permanently destroyed. The film never devolves into self-pity, though. I admire the clear gaze Mizoguchi affords this tragic legend, one that shows that the unsularity of the powerful against the powerless is an ancient and eternal problem. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:20 pm |
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| Since the only version of Last Tango available for rental around here is the R-rated version, I've never seen it (watched the first five minutes, realized it was the rental version, turned it off). I wouldn't mind seeing it, but I'm not going to buy it, sight unseen. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:55 pm |
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Marilyn wrote: I had one of the most moving experiences of my film-going life: saw Kenji Mizoguchi's Sansho the Bailiff today. This film shows the incredible brutality of slavery in 12th century Japan, yet cleaves to principles of kindness and fair play to see its aristocratic family--driven into exile, slavery, and prostitution by its very kindness--through. One wishes that the costs hadn't been so high for them. While upholding their values, it is hard not to notice that the family has been permanently destroyed. The film never devolves into self-pity, though. I admire the clear gaze Mizoguchi affords this tragic legend, one that shows that the unsularity of the powerful against the powerless is an ancient and eternal problem.
Mizoguchi is an excellent storyteller who doesn't get enough recognition. He was one of the first directors I saw when I originally got the time, income, and access to seriously watch movies (i.e., right after college). |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:38 pm |
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| Remember from my college days seeing Mizoguchi's Ugetsu, a memorable movie, the third Japanese movie for me, after Rashomon and something that sounded like Yukiwarusi. One of the characters in Ugetsu is named Lady Wakasa. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:15 pm |
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| Jeez, just a little googling shows me you're right. I've always thought of our Lady as being Polish. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:53 pm |
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yambu wrote: Jeez, just a little googling shows me you're right. I've always thought of our Lady as being Polish.
POLISH?!?!?! Ack[1]. And this even came up several times, the last one being about about 2 weeks ago (see Current Film).
[1] Not that there's anything wrong with being Polish... %^} |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:55 pm |
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| Sorry - Couch with a View. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:07 am |
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| Indeed. Ugetsu is showing at the American Museum of Moving Image in Astoria, NY, if anyone is so inclined to see it on the big screen. If you would like to rent, Criterion™ just released what I'm hoping is a stellar DVD-print. |
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| Rod |
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| Just watched War of the Worlds: an intense, brilliantly envisaged nightmare, grimly beautiful, both extremely brutal and very human. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:44 am |
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| Can't I even get a few of you people to watch Last Days now that it's out on DVD? |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:01 am |
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Rod wrote: Just watched War of the Worlds: an intense, brilliantly envisaged nightmare, grimly beautiful, both extremely brutal and very human.
OOh, well goody on Steven fucking Spielberg and Tom nutcase Cruise. They really need and deserve some hype around here.
The only reason I'd see that film for would be the brilliant Dakota Fanning. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:39 am |
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Quote: I loved Last Tango in Paris, but then I saw it when I was a freshman in college, and I'd never seen anything like it before. It has one line that has stayed with me, Brando saying to Schneider "....you'll be playing soccer with your tits."
Me too, except the 'loved it' bit. I particularly remeber the scene, immediately prior to the buggery scene I think, when Brando gets the girl, in a state of arousal, to agree to a string of degrading sex acts. Naive, and more sensitive than I realised, I found it quite disturbing. |
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