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Syd
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:42 am Reply with quote
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I wish they would cut some of the soaf operas.


Soap operas.

Fuck it, I WANT AN EDIT BUTTON.

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ehle64
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:35 am Reply with quote
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*sigh*

While I enjoy an episode or two or three of Grey's Anatomy, it does NOT belong in this forum.

Thank you.

p.s. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY is as good as Sandrah Oh on that show.

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zzzzzzzzzz.....
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:53 am Reply with quote
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Marc,
If you need a dictionary I can provide one for you but illiterate is not the word you want to use. Bad typist or poor speller is what you are talking about. Yes I am am both. But you are illiterate by your miss use of the english language. If you want to get into a pissing contest that is fine and I will oblige you but be carefull for what you wish for.........

ps I will be out of town for the next 4 days so I will reply to you then.......

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Marc
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:55 am Reply with quote
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ps I will be out of town for the next 4 days so I will reply to you then.......


can't wait.
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Ghulam
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:19 pm Reply with quote
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This week's episode of Six Feet Under dealing with the funeral and burial is superbly handled, perhaps the best episode this season.
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Ghulam
I agree with you about tonight's episode of SFU. It was so hard to watch their grief. Much better than last week's episode, which was quite good. But this one touched me in a way that the other didn't.
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sioux
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:45 pm Reply with quote
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I missed the beginning of this week's SFU. My roommate is my brother and he has been an on and off SFU fan. I had told him, though he hasn't watched all season, that Nate died last week. When I got home around 9:30, he was watching. I asked what had happened and he said everyone was fighting - I gave him a significant look, as we've been through that many times with our family, and he protested that we don't generally fight at the funeral itself. We were nonetheless both compelled to the rest of the show.

God it was good...raw emotions and everyone struggling together. I've been struck by this before, but now I want to go back and really look at it - when the dead come back to talk they say what the person they're visiting thinks they want to say. I could be wrong but I don't think any new facts are really revealed. It struck me because what Nate said to Brenda was all about what Brenda was feeling. Nate might have called her on her behaviour with Maya if he had been aware, but the rest of it was all out of Brenda's conscience.

All Apologies was perfect. That song makes me cry on some of my better days but in this context....(though I think Cobain was an asshole for killing himself).
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inlareviewer
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:18 am Reply with quote
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am the other side of inchoate after Nate Fisher's funeral (wore black, wept throughout), from epitaph-less opening Ruth dream to Ruth&Maya fadeout, an episode for the books. All on form, though God and Mr. Hall's David were beyond accounting for, and La Griffiths never more heart-piercing -- the closing caBillytharsis very difficult to watch. apparently the show is doing two more episodes after all (though that might be a two-tiered affair, like the first season finale was) plus the Eulogy for 6FU clip show. On the HBO site they're voting for fan fave:

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/poll/viewerschoice_season1.shtml

At present the top votegetters are: Season 1, the pilot, 36%; Season 2, "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" (the biker funeral/first annum of Nate Sr.'s bus bust-up), 22%; Season 3, "I'm Sorry, I'm Lost" (Claire's abortion, Ruth's remarriage, Pulpy Widower Nate at Brenda's door), 24%; Season 4, "That's My Dog" (David's abduction, MICHAEL C. HALL WAS ROBBED!), 30%, though the untitled season finale is closing in at 27%; Season 5, though not yet finished, has "Ecotone" (last week's jaw-dropper) creaming the competition at 55% Vote by August 14th. Then vote on the final 5 beginning August 15th. The episode that receives the most votes will be aired on HBO 2 on Friday, September 6th, 2005. Only one episode per season will make it to the final 5.


Sad Crying or Very sad Mad Surprised Shocked Sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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sioux
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:40 pm Reply with quote
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%$^$$% spoilers - why doesn't anyone want to discuss specifics with me? Y'all are leaving me hanging!!!!
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ehle64
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:22 pm Reply with quote
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sioux wrote:
I've been struck by this before, but now I want to go back and really look at it - when the dead come back to talk they say what the person they're visiting thinks they want to say.


I really got that with this particular episode. It will be extremely interesting for me, when I go back to the beginning of the series and rewatch if that's the intention of each dead person. However, there is no denying that Nathaniel treating David the way he did and Nate treating Brenda the way he did was obviously the recipient's inner emotions being manifest that way. More later. Crying or Very sad

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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:27 am Reply with quote
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Sioux
Alan Ball has always maintained that the dead folk are not ghosts in the classic sense, but embody the inner dialogue of the person to whom they appear, i.e., David actually voicing his own feelings of being second-best to Nate (which masked his still-suppressed grief) via Nathaniel Sr. It's not Dead Dad's feelings about David, it's David's feelings about David. Hence, the (heart-shredding) Nate/Brenda face-off in the car was Brenda's own open-wound conflicts confronting her. Same with Brenda vs. Dead Lisa in the season opener, Claire seeing Dad in the graveyard, Mark Foster the gaybashed carrying over the last two eppys of Season 1, etc. Various DVD commentaries by Mr. Ball and his writers and directors emphasize this point of interpretation, whether dreams, Ecstasy trips or just minds wandering.

I'm sure there are exceptions, though I can't name them at present.


ehle: Am midway through revisiting Season 2 at present, and I can't decide whether there really are the slews of clues that this outcome has been quietly percolating all along, which makes its shocking execution twice as astounding, to me, or if it's just my hindsight.

Almost jumped out of my skin when David's panic-attack hallucination of his abductor attacked the hearse, with zombie eyes. Knocked over my half-empty Kleenex box, and the Furrbawl was extremely purrturbed.

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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:36 am Reply with quote
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Sioux
Oops. Didn't get the gist of your message, which I sort of conflated with .
ehle's

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/episode/?ntrack_para1=feat_main_title

has the full synopsis of the episode, "All Alone," but it doesn't do it in the same sequence the scenes aired in. So, what do you need filled in? It opened with no cold death, instead zooming in on an utterly inconsolable Ruth in the sunroom, weepweepweep, and then she sees a glow-ey Nate reciting Castaneda. She is so relieved at him being alive that when it cuts to her in bed asleep, there's a smile on her face, and then she wakes up and remembers.

That's how it started. It didn't get any easier.

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inlareviewer
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:19 am Reply with quote
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sioux

On the other hand, the idea that dead folks are saying what the live folks want to hear also applies. A lot. Ruth's Ecstatics over Nathaniel in the woods in "Life's Too Short" in Season One springs to mind, as well as Brenda imagining Scott the barfly when she's really in the tub with the jet-stream.


And then there all the actual flashbacks, like the "Last time I saw Nathaniel" flashes in "The Most Wonderful Time of the Year," or Rico's memories of how he became a surrogate Fisher.

Sidebar: Am miffed, simply miffed, that Dina Waters' indelible Tracey Montrose-Blair isn't going to make at least a nominal appearance in the final season. I mean, "Harold and Maude" is her favorite film. It profoundly affected her.Wink

Am, of course, just trying to avoid my weeps. Crying or Very sad

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mo_flixx
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:06 am Reply with quote
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There's a new mini-series set to open soon on HBO called ROME. My neighbor, who's been designing for years, did the costumes. The show was shot in Europe. When I ran into him awhile back, he told me about it and didn't think it would ever make it to HBO because of production problems.
He described it as "Sex in the City" set in ancient Rome. It sounds interesting.

Anyway, I don't get HBO, so I hope someone on this forum will watch and comment.
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ehle64
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:16 am Reply with quote
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I re-watched "All Alone" last night with the S-Man. I think it was harder the second time, the only thing easing the pain was all of the extraordinary acting. Easily the best acted, most incredible ensemble performance of this show's 5-year career. Another thing, minor, all things considered, but still bugs me. The title, "All Alone" hopefully isn't referencing "All Apologies". At the end of that song, Kurt Cobain sings over and over, "All in all is what we are, All I know is what we are, All in all is what we are. . . " Did the writer hear something different?

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