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| shannon |
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| If reunited Pumpkins sound like Siamese Dream/Mellon Collie... Pumpkins, then yes. But they'll probably sound like Adored/Machina... Pumpkins and I don't think anybody would want to celebrate that. |
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| Macca00 |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:48 pm |
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censored, last time I saw Dylan was three summers' ago here in Liverpool. For once, the old curmudgeon openly acknowledged what his audience really wanted. From start to finish, Dylan rattled through his back catalogue, the emphasis being on 60s & 70s material.
It's just a pity that he now seems content to cosy up to the corporate foe he once memorably denounced. After appearing in a T.V. commercial for women's lingerie, now this:
http://www.nme.co.uk/news/112835.htm .
Meanwhile, those of us who have such fond memories of Ryan Adams' last U.K. tour (how can I forget his rewarding Liverpool gig  ) are sad to hear of his tour dates here being pulled: http:www.nme.co.uk/news/112829.htm . Maybe he's been listening to "Love Is Hell" once too often  .
Taking a leaf out of The Adams Book Of Onstage Behaviour, Primal Scream's Bobby Gillespie distinguished himself at Glastonbury on Sunday evening: http://www.nme.co.uk/news/112818.htm . |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:45 pm |
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Marilyn wrote: Looks like the Smashing Pumpkins are reuniting. Is that cause for celebration around here? I've only heard a bit of their music (and liked it when I was in the mood to feel like my head was going to explode).
I would welcome a Smashing Pumpkins reunion if the following conditions were met:
- All of the original band members returned... this means D'Arcy Wretzky. While I like Melissa Auf de mar, D'Arcy was the original and it was that sound on Gish and Siamese Dream that captured me as a fan.
I did like the Adore and Machina sessions, but it took some time to grow on me. Machina II (their final album that was never commercially released) is pretty cool, but nothing like the early days.
Which leads me to my next requirement:
- Find the magic that made the first two albums and don't try to recreate them, but use that same energy and creative songwriting if SP are to reunite.
- Tour both small clubs and arenas
- and on tour, play songs from ALL of your records. The last two tours SP did, they started lopping off songs from Gish and Siamese Dream, which was pretty frustrating to us long time fans. Even the MCIS tour, they played nothing from Gish... uncalled for and a reunion would mean for them to go all the back to the beginning.
- keep ticket prices reasonable and don't use a reunion tour to pad their retirement accounts. Van Halen pissed me off last year with the sky high prices for nosebleed seats, when it was pretty obvious they were not going to tour anymore.
- don't just decide to reunite for one shot. If you are going to get back together, it's because you've got some magic together for more than just 3 songs on another greatest hits album.
That's about it for now. I'm sure there's other restrictions that will pop up, but those seem pretty reasonable to follow.
Now to see what James Iha (who is most likely without a band now that A Perfect Circle are on hiatus) has to say and if D'Arcy will put aside her issue with Billy and at least give it a shot.
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:33 pm |
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| The Dylan spots for Victoria's Secret were damn fine. I wonder if he had anything to do with the production. |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:09 pm |
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| D'Arcy plays on all Smashing Pumpkins album except the two Machinas. Well, she was a member, at least, because it's Billy Corgan you hear playing every instrument except percussion on Siamese Dream and most of Mellon Collie, a fact that leads me to question the need for a Pumpkins reunion at all. |
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| ajbradfo |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:23 pm |
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G'day,
Xavier Rudd – Good Spirits. A live album by the 27 year old Oz surfer/roots musician recorded last August in a series of sold-out gigs in Sydney, Melbourne and Fremantle. This off the CD cover… Xavier Rudd: Vocals, Weissenborn Slide Guitars, 6 & 12 String Acoustic/Electric Guitars, Yidaki (Didgeridoos), Stomp Box, Harmonicas, Aztec Drum, Djembe, Shakers, Ankle Bells. Yep, just him and all those instruments and he plays them all nearly simultaneously. His songs, in the vein of another Oz roots act The John Butler Trio, speak of the need for world peace, for preserving our pristine environment and the need for our crazy conservative government to apologise for the two centuries of injustice against our indigenous tribes. To see him in action, as I did at the Homebake Festival in Sydney in 2003, is a truly mesmerising sight. Pounding out beats with his feet, playing intricate slide guitar and breathing life into a hollow tree branch left the crowd totally gobsmacked. He is touring the States as we speak. Catch him if you can.
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:58 pm |
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| On my trip I've been liistening to a lot of the classic rock stations. Is there any group since that can hold a candle to Zeppelin(sp?) in their field of music? |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:41 pm |
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As far as classic rock is concerned, I would have to say they are pretty close to the top.
The only exception, at least IMO, would be Black Sabbath. But they were around about the same time. Zep lasted almost 2 years longer (comparing to the Ozzy years of Black Sabbath).
I was always a fan of House of the Holy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:04 pm |
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Quote: Is there any group since that can hold a candle to Zeppelin(sp?) in their field of music?
CREAM. |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:07 pm |
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Well, yeah.... although CREAM came before Zep and Black Sabbath by a few years, they were still one of the greatest.
Sure hope they decide to do some more shows.
Speaking of classic bands, I saw a commercial for the ABC broadcast this weekend of Live 8. I look forward to seeing what a reunited Pink Floyd will be like.
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| unohoo |
| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:37 pm |
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| On some Spiderman vs. Batman shit but oh well; Cream to me is only significant because of Clapton, but Zeppelin has Plant, Page, and Bohnam. (although I'm reminded that I never heard/bought Cream's "Disraeli (sp) Gears".) Hell Jimmy Page is arguably as good as Clapton so they sort of cancel each other but when you throw in the wanton precision of Bohnam and Robert Plant's wailing then Zepp starts to pull away from the pack. Every rock band with @ least four members should aspire to be like Zep or the Stones. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:39 am |
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Quote: Cream to me is only significant because of Clapton
Thats a load of shit. Baker and Bruce were a monster rhythm section. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:16 am |
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I saw Cream at the Limelight when they just started. Something was wrong with the amp, though you couldn't prove it by me. Ginger Baker (he was trhe drummer, right?) had a little fit.Kicked a few pieces of the equipment, swearing all the time and the band walked out about 15 minutes into their set. They had
played their first hit though, Sunshine of My Love? |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:45 am |
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I agree with Marc. Calling CREAM significant only because of Clapton is excluding two of the best in the business of percussion (Baker) and bass (Bruce).
I don't know about Ginger Baker, but I know Jack Bruce has toured continously since Cream originally called it quits. I've actually seen him a couple of times. So I guess you could say I've seen 1/3 of CREAM. But to see all of them would still be something not to miss.
Speaking of missing, I am major bummed I had to miss the John Doe show on Monday night. I really wanted to go to this, but a client of mine had a computer go down and I didn't finish until 11pm that night.
Another fav of mine is coming to Salt Lake next week... Cracker. We have a downtown open amp called Galivan Center, which are doing a series of free concerts every Thursday night. I've seen them several times and hope to not miss this one.
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| unohoo |
| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:19 pm |
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| Well I am speaking from a personal standpoint. The only reason I started listening to Cream was because of Clapton, and I never even noticed the other two, I take that back, they never stepped out of the shadow of Clapton's guitar. I started listening to Zeppelin because of Page, and Plant and Bonham are pushing that band as hard as anyone else. But Cream was a trio right? It doesn't seem fair to compare the two, and why the hell don't you hear any Cream on the classic rock stations. |
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