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billyweeds
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:27 am Reply with quote
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City
Mr. Brownstone wrote:
Hipster:

Ehle's "Oh bother" used to drive me completely fucking insane with rage, but once I heard him use it in person, it's pretty funny.

It's still a shallow dodge, but it's a really funny shallow dodge.


What is this in response to? I'm interested, because (never having heard ehle say "oh, bother" in person) the comment still drives me completely fucking insane with rage. Partly because it's shallow, and partly because it's totally unresponsive to any substance.
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billyweeds
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:30 am Reply with quote
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[quote="Marc"]
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"oh bother" is so dismissive and insulting. It pisses me off when you use it in response to something I post that I really feel strongly about.



Forget the previous post. I found Marc's comment. I agree with it 100 percent.
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Shane
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:36 am Reply with quote
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Judith, I couldn't agree more about the music!!! As we were watching the credits Marilyn was trying to catch the music blurbs and my only comment was, "don't strain I'm going to find the soundtrack, you don't think I could be without it after that do you?"
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billyweeds
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:40 am Reply with quote
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I'm afraid I found The Man Who Cried every bit as unwatchable as the critics did. It was over and out after the first half hour.
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Marilyn
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:24 am Reply with quote
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 8210 Location: Skokie (not a bad movie, btw)
Why, Billy? What did you find uninvolving about it?

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:26 am Reply with quote
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To be completely honest, I can't remember now, it was so long ago. But the pace, I do recall, was beyond funereal.
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Marilyn
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:31 am Reply with quote
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Pace? Hmmmmm. I thought it was well paced, but I tolerate a little slowness better than you do. Still, it didn't seem slowly paced to me. There certainly were many dramatic sequences in it, from the pogroms to the parties to the gypsy camp.

This is not a slight in any way to you, Billy, but I wonder if Sally Potter isn't really a film maker women respond to.

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lady wakasa
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:39 am Reply with quote
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 5911 Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon
One more site for marantzo's lap project:

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...I have frames displayed on my newly-reopened web site on the Production Code. (See my other a.m.s. posting of this evening.) To read examples or see illustrations, go to http://prodcode.davidhayes.net. On the page you reach first, scroll to the bottom and click the link labeled "a Link to the Production Code and examples." (This is the only link displayed in a large font.) A new window will open containing frames. On the largest frame (the only one with a scrollbar), scroll down through the text of the Production Code to item "VI. Costumes." Click an "E" in the vertical-bar type frame to the left of the frame with the text. Click ing a box with an "E" will cause the program to squeeze in a new frame containing descriptions of scenes in several films that violated or circumvented the Production Code on this issue. Wherever you see a link labled "Pictures," this will open a new window with pictures and captions of all the scenes I have illustrations for within the category of "costumes." (The first film to be described in item VI. Costumes is "The Hypocites," and it is among the films with a link for the pictures page.)


My original question seems to have hit pay dirt, and there's a bunch of examples, too many to post here. For anyone would like to follow: go to alt.movies.silent and look for the PICCADILLY Poster thread.

They're also asking if Marc's changed his mind... I have no idea at this point.

Well, off to find Mama Wakasa.
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lady wakasa
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:42 am Reply with quote
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 5911 Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon
Marilyn wrote:
This is not a slight in any way to you, Billy, but I wonder if Sally Potter isn't really a film maker women respond to.


I saw The Tango Lesson a while back and, although I had some questions about some of the plot points, I had no problem with the film. But I have noticed the anti-Potter bit, too.
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judithannie
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:44 am Reply with quote
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 224 Location: Albuquerque NM
I had no problem with the pace either and I saw that it was a frequent criticism of the movie. I think some of my last posts have been about films with a deliberate pace (The Company and Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring) that take their time telling a story without a big bang ending. The directors just let the story happen and take you where it wants to go. I felt about The Man Who Cried, the same way I felt about the first aria - it is so beautiful, please let it go on forever.
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melisb
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:09 am Reply with quote
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 6 Location: Istanbul, Turkey
considering i absolutely hated The Tango Lesson, i should probably avoid The Man Who Cried? although from the very little i can remember, i think it was the way Potter presented herself in the film; i felt it was overly megalomaniac and not even well-made.
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mo_flixx
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:20 am Reply with quote
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melisb wrote:
considering i absolutely hated The Tango Lesson, i should probably avoid The Man Who Cried? although from the very little i can remember, i think it was the way Potter presented herself in the film; i felt it was overly megalomaniac and not even well-made.


I think the two films are very different. I agree with you about how Potter comes off in THE TANGO LESSON, but I don't think that should keep you from watching THE MAN WHO CRIED.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:20 am Reply with quote
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 14498 Location: Houston
Thanks for the link, Lady.
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mo_flixx
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:33 am Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Thanks for the link, Lady.


I couldn't get the link to work. Could you repeat it please? I'd like to read the comments.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:42 am Reply with quote
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 14498 Location: Houston
I had trouble at first, too. But if, when you get to the second window, you scan down to Section VI, then click on the "R" to get text explaining the Code. If you click on the "E", you get examples, including the link to pictures. You're curser must be on the Section VI text to make it work (I think).
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