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| Marilyn |
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Tim - You may be right. All I care about is that he's throwing his weight behind a move that is just one more nail in the coffin for shared film experience. That is a precious experience to me. And I don't like some of the stereotypes he's gotten behind in his films.
I have nothing against CPAs, btw. My cousin is one and is a really nice guy. I have not met many MBAs I like, however. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:51 am |
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I do know some who have turned against the Dark Side - just as my really good friends who are lawyers are public interest / human rights lawyers.
Actually, I was headed down the economist / MBA path and just couldn't do it. But one of my very very good friends did it and we're close to having been friends for 20 years. (Her job leans somewhat to the regulatory, though, so she's not 100% typical.)
But I think it's a mistake to assume that every MBA is evil - I've met too many people who went into it with good intentions and ended up trapped.
Steven Soderberg - might be an ass, but I don't think in this case he's doing more than following the trend in Hollywood. I don't like it, but mainstream Hollywood is a business. The art (usually) comes second. I do agree with you that this isn't about seeing a movie in the dark of a theater.
Oops - time for our political lunch. Later for youse. |
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| Marilyn |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:56 am |
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I said I had not met many I liked. That is a true statement. I'm glad you have a good one in your life, Lady W.
I have an idea (not my own, btw) that needs to get through to MBAs and other people in the economic side of life: there needs to be something in their cost/benefit analyses that accounts for the value of noncommodity items, such as shared experiences, aesthetics, community-building, historic preservation, and so forth. There is a REAL COST to society when an historic building is razed or a movie palace is shuttered. It is not valued by people who only say, "Show me the money." If they can't buy a new car with it or vacation in Europe on it, it doesn't matter. That's wrong! |
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| Marilyn |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:01 am |
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This sounds like fun:
THE BAD SEED--THE MUSICAL Corn Productions' spoof of the 1954 suspense drama marks the latest installment of Corn's "Tiff and Mom" series, which details the doings of a gender-bending mother-daughter team from Berwyn. "Tiff and Mom" (really coauthors Robert Bouwman and Todd Schaner) star as preteen sociopath Rhoda Penmark and her distraught mother Christine. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:50 am |
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Marilyn,
His. This was tried back with Pirates of Penzance and it doesn't work 1) because most theatre chains have a policy against showing a movie once it has been aired on cable and 2) because it indicates a lack of faith in the movie, that it isnt' good enough for people to go to the movies to see it. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:55 am |
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Marilyn - that does sound like it'll be a hoot
Rhoda was such a disturbingly evil character  - the film gave me chills when I first saw it - especially the scene when the gardner
paid the ultimate price in the the basement - I can remember his cblood cutling screams  |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:21 pm |
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Quote: And my mom's a CPA. She likes flowers and canoeing and stuff.
I wouldn't put CPA's in the catagorie that Marilyn was referring to. For one thing I've never known accountants to use that kind of Dilbertspeak. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:27 pm |
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The moviegoing experience is so distinct from home viewing that I doubt Soderbergh's vision of the future will kill the industry. Think logically -- there are more people going to more theatres to see more movies than ever before, and it's happening even with the advent of cable TV, video on demand, Blockbuster and online DVD rentals. The film industry ain't suffering.
For every film being screened in a theatre there are probably 20 you can see while sitting on your ass in your den. But fuck the cheaper cost and greater selection of rentals - we choose, and continue to choose, to make our evenings out revolve around a very limited and more expensive selection of cinema choices. That's part of the group aesthetic Marilyn was afraid of losing. It won't happen because we're social creatures. People like going out in general, and going to movies in particular.
As to Soderbergh's reasoning, I don't completely agree with it but I don't blame him for trying to stay ahead of the curve. He's a smart guy and pretty inventive; a businessman, yes, but certainly no corporate sellout. |
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| Marilyn |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:40 pm |
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| Lshap - You may be right about Soderbergh not being what will kill movie theaters. It'll be the lousy product released through most of the year and bunching of the best movies in November and December. This is becoming a really big turn-off. I know Hollywood doesn't care about me--they want those teenaged boys who go see movies 20 times. But even we more discerning cineastes add up. I watched a doc about black actors who were blacklisted. It began with preblacklist days and a call made for black audiences to boycott the movies one Saturday night in protest over the roles blacks were given. The studios really panicked--that was 10% of their audience! |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:51 pm |
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Marilyn,
Yeah, nothing's more frustrating than sifting through all the idiot films designed for teens in the hope of finding something worthwhile. Only two on my list right now - Crash and Hitchhiker's Guide...
Still, I have to admit I'm really looking forward to seeing Star Wars, Batman and War Of The Worlds. I hope you're not beyond enjoying the quickie orgasms of the summer blockbuster. |
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| Marilyn |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:54 pm |
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| Of course not, Lshap. I've got very wide-ranging tastes. The new Ridley Scott sword and sandal film is getting very good reviews. I used to love those when I was a kid. I might go out and see Kingdom of Heaven. I'm not sure Crash appeals to me that much. There are so many other choices in the art cinemas around here that talk about prejudice in much more realistic detail. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:13 pm |
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| Palindromes, Crash and The Upside of Anger are in my top-3, must-see slots. I could give a rat's ass about a Hitchhiker, although the prospect of seeing McConaughey shirtless for a half-hour might propel me to sneak into Sahara. |
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| dignan |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:16 pm |
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| This will sound weird -- I just arrived here today. Posted in current and trivia. Now here...everyone's talking about going somewhere else. Did I just arrive as the party's ending and the cigaret butts are being swept up and the puke being mopped and so on? |
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| dignan |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:18 pm |
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| I just posted to one conversation and then was returned to another, where my post looks like a nonsequitur. Sorry. A regular bull in a faberge egg shop today. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:26 pm |
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| Welcome dignan. Sometimes it gets confusing in here, no need to be sorry. |
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