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Melody
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:14 pm Reply with quote
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yambu wrote:
I would love to see a responsible production of pre-Civil War Kansas and Missouri. John Brown, David Atchison, Jesse James, Quantrill, and others from that fascinating, aberrant time all deserve better big screen treatment than they've gotten.

It's not the big screen, but Warren Zevon had the right idea back in '73...


Frank and Jesse James

On a small Missouri farm
Back when the west was young
Two boys learned to rope and ride
And be handy with a gun

War broke out between the states
And they joined up with Quantrill
And it was over in Clay County
That Frank and Jesse finally learned to kill

Keep on riding, riding, riding
Frank and Jesse James
Keep on riding, riding, riding
'Til you clear your names
Keep on riding, riding, riding
Across the rivers and the range
Keep on riding, riding, riding
Frank and Jesse James

After Appomattox they were on the losing side
So no amnesty was granted
And as outlaws they did ride
They rode against the railroads
And they rode against the banks
And they rode against the governor
Never did they ask for a word of thanks

(Chorus)

Robert Ford, a gunman
In exchange for his parole
Took the life of James the outlaw
Which he snuck up on and stole
No one knows just where they came to be misunderstood
But the poor Missouri farmers knew
Frank and Jesse'd do the best they could

(Chorus)

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Marj
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:16 pm Reply with quote
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Mel - Could you hum a few bars? Cool
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ehle64
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:43 pm Reply with quote
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If anyone's interested in hearing the song or watching the video from where my tagline originates, you can do so here:

http://www.ericschwartz.com/video.html

Make sure you get to the last verse, he totally addresses Charles' concerns.

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yambu
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:56 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 6441 Location: SF Bay Area
Mel, that's the worst Western song ever! Guy needs to learn how to scan before he writs another. Thanks, I love it. Here's my favorite song from childhood. I had Burl Ives' recording:

The Streets of Laredo
arranged & adapted by Arlo Guthrie

As I walked out in the streets of Laredo
As I walked out in Laredo one day
I spied a poor cowboy wrapped up in white linen
All wrapped in white linen as cold as the clay

"I see by your outfit that you are a cowboy"
These words he did say as I proudly stepped by
"Come sit down beside me and hear my sad story
I'm shot in the breast and I know I must die

"'Twas once in the saddle I used to go ridin'
Once in the saddle I used to go gay
First lead to drinkin', and then to card-playing
I'm shot in the breast and I'm dying today

"Let six jolly cowboys come carry my coffin
Let six pretty gals come to carry my pall
Throw bunches of roses all over my coffin
Throw roses to deaden the clods as they fall

"Oh, beat the drum slowly, and play the fife lowly
And play the dead march as you carry me along
Take me to the green valley and lay the earth o'er me
For I'm a poor cowboy and I know I've done wrong"

We beat the drum slowly and played the fife lowly
And bitterly wept as we carried him along
For we all loved our comrade, so brave, young and handsome
We all loved our comrade although he done wrong
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Nancy
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:24 pm Reply with quote
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Yambu --

For some reason, I can never hear "Streets of Laredo" without some devilish portion of my brain substituting the variant verse:

I see by your outfit that you are a cowboy
I see by your outfit that you're a cowboy too
We see by our outfits that we are both cowboys
If you get an aoutfit, you can be a cowboy too

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Nancy
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:26 pm Reply with quote
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Someday I may even learn to check for typos before I post things.......

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chillywilly
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:40 pm Reply with quote
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lshap wrote:
There is such a deeply ingrained bigotry of the devout in American politics that even the most brilliant candidate wouldn't stand a chance if they were anything but. Referencing God has become the secret handshake of every electable candidate in the past 30 years.

Coming in late on this one, but had to say amen to that (no religious pun intended from this agnostic). Thanks for that, Lorne.

If someone wants to have faith - let them... it doesn't matter if they are a judge or a store clerk. But the second they try to use that to influence their position or job responsibility, either on the bench or at the checkout stand, then that's when it needs to stay personal.

The religious right is so fearful of anything secular that they have to scare the living shit out of people to make them think that we are ready to crucify Jesus again.

What it boils down to is one thing: power and greed. If it's not money, it's being the person that lead these sheep to follow them, even where it goes against pure logic.

My g/f and I were discussing this over the weekend while pounding rum and cokes and riding ATVs (not at the same time) at the sand dunes. We realized how better off people would be if they kept their religion personal and not tried to grandstand it every chance they got.... to stop and enjoy their surroundings instead of protesting every little thing that appears to be "godless"... enjoying life instead of fearing every minute of it.

There are so many things that bother me about the religious nature of injection into our government and the constant wails that it's "under attack". It wouldn't be under attack if they would learn to keep it to themselves instead of using it as a tool to gain power and control over others.

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Nancy
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:56 pm Reply with quote
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Welcome, burritoboy! Hope you like it here. (I do.)

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chillywilly
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:08 pm Reply with quote
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Welcome to burritoboy.

funny.. i had a burrito for lunch today.... i see that name and think about food (joining ehle here)

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mo_flixx
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:20 pm Reply with quote
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lshap wrote:
yambu wrote:
I would love to see a responsible production of pre-Civil War Kansas and Missouri. John Brown, David Atchison, Jesse James, Quantrill, and others from that fascinating, aberrant time all deserve better big screen treatment than they've gotten.


Agreed. I'd also love to see a bio made of Frederick Douglas.


Sounds like a project for DENZEL!
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mo_flixx
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:21 pm Reply with quote
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We all know lots about flim!

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mo_flixx
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:22 pm Reply with quote
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Marj wrote:
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Burritoboy - Welcome. I see you've made yourself right at home. And with your knowledge of flim, I know we'll be talking a lot as time goes by.


Flim, that is.

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burritoboy
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:29 pm Reply with quote
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[quote="mo_flixx"][quote="Marj"]...

Burritoboy - Welcome. I see you've made yourself right at home. And with your knowledge of flim, I know we'll be talking a lot as time goes by.[/quote]

Flim, that is.

:wink:[/quote]

I also have knowledge of flem, as well as flim, flam and film.
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Marc
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:34 pm Reply with quote
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hey burrito,

take some time to learn how to use the quote function. Yer posts are confusing as hell.
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Syd
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:41 pm Reply with quote
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I use cut-and-paste to put in the text I want, block it and press the quote button. I'm not sure why he's getting people's names inside the quotes unless he's trying to do html.

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