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| tirebiter |
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| What's next for the Western? I think we'll go on as we have for the last 30 years-- a few will pop up every year like ghosts, but won't resonate with the public as they did from the 30s to the 60s, when they were ubiquitous. For my generation, the Western was so overwhelmingly overserved on TV in the 50s and 60s that it lost its way, becoming as formulaic as the sitcom is today. The final changes were rung on the genre with the Spaghetti Westerns and a few milestones that either mocked or savaged the conventions of the form: Butch Cassidy, The Wild Bunch, and a few Eastwoods and one Costner. I don't think the genre will ever revive in a meaningful way-- the bloated corpse of what it was (a million Gene Autry/Roy Rogers/Hopalong Cassidy/Wm S. Hart/Tom Mix/Gunsmoke programmers) is still too evident to ignore for those who remember, and of little interest for those too young to care. |
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| censored-03 |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:57 am |
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| It'll take an Asian director to do a new western that we can promptly copy. |
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| censored-03 |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:58 am |
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| Maybe one about the railroad experience in the 'old west'. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:01 am |
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Quote: It'll take an Asian director to do a new western that we can promptly copy.
Been done with SEVEN SAMURAI, YOJIMBO and countless others. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:32 am |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:59 am |
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It was television’s turn at the BAFTA. The T in BAFTA stands for television, which in Britain has often filled the void left by the thin and patchy indigenous film industry. There was not much to report that would be of interest to most of you here. The two biggish winners on the night were in the comedy awards Little Britain, which some of you may already have seen on BBC America, and in drama, Channel 4’s discomfiting mini-series, Sex Traffic, which you may get to see. The title’s allusion to the docudrama about drug trafficking, Traffik is deliberate.
One of the best moments on the night was Eddy Izzard’s speech announcing the winner of a special award for outstanding contribution etc. for Michael Palin. His confusion of the erstwhile Python with Che Guevara was a typically surreal and hilarious riff from a master raconteur. If ever the Oscar’s needed a realy cool presenter…
My other favourite moment came from the genius that is Stephen Fry, after upstaging host Graham Norton with his eloquence when presenting, he came to the moment of truth, the opening of the envelope: “All I have to do now is slit this seal…Oh my that makes me sound like a Canadian.”
The main reason for repeating this joke is to annoy the Canadian members of the forum and their camp followers, who have been far too smug recently. |
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| pedersencr |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:08 am |
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My apologies to all for my dreadfully out-of-sequence response to the following, which was posted recently in this forum
ehle64 wrote: Y'all know I'm all about some Fellini, however, I'm still smarting at a failed attempt at moderating, so. . . Who would like to do the honors ....
Ehle, Hello,
Actually I did not know that you were still smartng from our contentious discussion in the Corduroy forum long ago, or else I would have offered my apologies much, much sooner than this.
However, please do allow me to offer my sincerest and deepest apology to you personally, and to anyone else I offended, for remarks I made that have offended you so so grievously. Had I been able to foresee the effects of my posts, I would certainly have chosen much more temperate and conciliatory language in expressing my divergent views.
I am deeply sorry that you were personally offended then, and I am distressed even moreso that, even now, the unpleasant memory is such as to make you reluctant to moderate another forum. That is a most unfortunate consequence of my remarks, so please also accept my assurances that I have long since ceased posting in TEFF and will not be disagreeing with you or anyone else in this forum in the future. I am gone and there will be no more negative vibes from this corner.
Except, however, for one further matter to follow separately 
I continue to wish you well personally,
And I hope that you, and TEFF and all it members, succeed and find happiness in all your lives and endeavors.
I remain
Yours most sincerely,
Charles R. Pedersen |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:18 am |
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| Well I haven't been on the Corduroy forum and have no idea what this is all about. Sounds like a sincere apology, but why the departure? |
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| burritoboy |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:39 am |
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[quote="Marilyn"]I don't like people using our Web site to publicize their own Web sites. This is a message board, not a blog, and we rely on contributions from our members.
Burritoboy probably works at Facets. That's the only way he could have access to some of those titles. I intend to hunt him down next time I'm in there and shake the scum out of his bag.[/quote]
Sorry, I only signed up on Thursday and I spent the entire weekend going to the movies! I promise that I don't really blogwhore, I just put my website into the profile because you folks asked. |
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| burritoboy |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:45 am |
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[quote="Marilyn"]www.facets.org
It's a fairly well-known source of arthouse rentals and purchases as well as a screening facility and film school for the cineaste. Before there was Netflix, Facets had the nationwide market cornered on arthouse rentals.
My animosity is directly only at the people who have seen fit to sign up recently and vanish. I know it takes time to get the lay of the land, but it would at least be polite to say "hi." We greet our new members. ([i]Miss Manners' Rules for the Web[/i], p. 47)[/quote]
Pfft! Netflix, bah-humbug! Compare Netflix to Greencine - Greencine has most of Caveh Zahedi's movies available for download - Netflix bupkis. Netflix apparently STILL can't find DVDs of Maya Deren - Greencine's got 'em. Netflix just got ahold of Godard's Keep Your Right Up, when Greencine has had that movie highlighted for a long time. |
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| burritoboy |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:48 am |
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[quote="lshap"]Marilyn,
I'm as perplexed and frustrated as you are at our newest members signing up and then going into stealth mode.
Whattaya' think of an 'Introduce Yourself' forum, set up as a separate thread in our Behind The Curtain forum, followed by a group email to nudge them all forward?
That question is directed to all.[/quote]
Sorry! I was busy watching movies this weekend! Also, the site proved a bit baffling to navigate through. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:50 am |
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burritoboy wrote: Marilyn wrote: www.facets.org
It's a fairly well-known source of arthouse rentals and purchases as well as a screening facility and film school for the cineaste. Before there was Netflix, Facets had the nationwide market cornered on arthouse rentals.
My animosity is directly only at the people who have seen fit to sign up recently and vanish. I know it takes time to get the lay of the land, but it would at least be polite to say "hi." We greet our new members. (Miss Manners' Rules for the Web, p. 47)
Pfft! Netflix, bah-humbug! Compare Netflix to Greencine - Greencine has most of Caveh Zahedi's movies available for download - Netflix bupkis. Netflix apparently STILL can't find DVDs of Maya Deren - Greencine's got 'em. Netflix just got ahold of Godard's Keep Your Right Up, when Greencine has had that movie highlighted for a long time.
I'm sick of people dissing netflix because it's not a bastion of independent film making. Compare it with Blockbuster and save your wrath for the big BB. Netflix was the trailblazer of mail DVD rental and as such deserves unending props. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:53 am |
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burritoboy,
Jump right in and make yourself at home. We've got some spectacularly talented people in here, as well as some spectacularly sensitive egos. Everything's fair game, especially in this particular forum.
Many of us have become friends through this site so the net effect is a positive one. Keep that in mind as your opinions on pretty well anything are debated.
Welcome to the clubhouse! |
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| burritoboy |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:57 am |
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[quote="billyweeds"][quote="burritoboy"][quote="Marilyn"]www.facets.org
It's a fairly well-known source of arthouse rentals and purchases as well as a screening facility and film school for the cineaste. Before there was Netflix, Facets had the nationwide market cornered on arthouse rentals.
My animosity is directly only at the people who have seen fit to sign up recently and vanish. I know it takes time to get the lay of the land, but it would at least be polite to say "hi." We greet our new members. ([i]Miss Manners' Rules for the Web[/i], p. 47)[/quote]
Pfft! Netflix, bah-humbug! Compare Netflix to Greencine - Greencine has most of Caveh Zahedi's movies available for download - Netflix bupkis. Netflix apparently STILL can't find DVDs of Maya Deren - Greencine's got 'em. Netflix just got ahold of Godard's Keep Your Right Up, when Greencine has had that movie highlighted for a long time.[/quote]
I'm sick of people dissing netflix because it's not a bastion of independent film making. Compare it with Blockbuster and save your wrath for the big BB. Netflix was the trailblazer of mail DVD rental and as such deserves unending props.[/quote]
Actually, I believe Greencine was in the mail DVD rental business before Netflix was. Don't get me wrong, Netflix is a huge advance over Blockbuster and perfectly fine for 99% of the population. But, for the enthusiast (ok, for the obsessive), Netflix just isn't necessarily the best option. Greencine is also a bit slow if you're not on the West Coast. But, even if you don't subscribe, their website is literally awesome in itself. |
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| burritoboy |
| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:04 am |
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[quote="censored-03"]Anybody who watches [i]The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T[/i] isn't all bad with me. Go burritoboy ! Welcome msklystron.[/quote]
It's truly a fantastic movie. The opening sequence is one of the most bizarre and fascinating things I've ever seen. One of the most under-rated children's movies (if, indeed, it actually is a children's movie at all).
Though I must admit the nominal anti-classical music theme (not really the actual theme of the movie) does annoy me. |
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