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| Marc |
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| Greg Shaw was a major force in rock and roll. I'm so sad that he died. I did a BOMP retrospective on my radio show a few weeks ago. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:30 am |
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| Is it too early to say that Interpol-antics is the best album of the year? |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:07 am |
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| 4th best for me. Underneath Ted Leo, Arcade Fire, and Green Day, in that order. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:45 am |
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Quote: Is it too early to say that Interpol-antics is the best album of the year?
I'm not as impressed as you and shannon are. I listened to the new Interpol 3 times yesterday while driving back to Taos from Santa Fe. I like it, but I'm not bowled over. |
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| soozala |
| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:55 pm |
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The Shroud Of Lowell will be playing a free show on Halloween, Sunday Oct. 31st at 8:30pm
Come and support this captivating Rock and Roll trio. You'll have a hauntingly good time and there will even be a frightenly special guest or two. If that isn't enough to make you leave your coffin, I mean home, then I don't know what else to say than other than it is FREE!!!, FREE!!!, FREE!!!
Luna Lounge
171 Ludlow Street (Btwn E. Houston and Stanton)
N Y C
October 31, @ 8:30pm
Please visit Shroud Of Lowell.com for mp3's, photo's and more. |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:21 pm |
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Quote: I'm not as impressed as you and shannon are.
Didn't you like Turn On the Bright Lights a lot? I've found that those who liked the first Interpol ain't too big on Antics. |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:21 pm |
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| Currently listening to that Bloc Party ep. It's good. |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:26 am |
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A review of Ted Leo's Shake the Sheets from Stylus that pretty much sums up just why I think the album the most important as well as the greatest bit of aural pleasure of the year.
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If you make the scarcest pretense to care about the Future of America, chances are you’ve bared your claws at some point in 2004.
60s idealism is dead as dead. Bitter recrimination’s back in a big fucking way. Doomsday prophesying’s at an all-time high, discourse an all-time low. If the Other Side wins, we’ll either get bombed back to Baghdad or lose our liberties, every last one. Too much is at stake, so everybody’s going negative, whether it’s Jon Stewart, Steve Earle, Swift Boat Veterans or Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
So why the fuck should we listen to Ted Leo when he says “it’s alright”, so many times that it starts to sound like his mantra?
Well, for starters, Leo’s not just being naive. Anyone who heard “The Ballad of the Sin Eater” or “The High Party”—a venomous pair of diatribes aimed at American myopia and self-absorption, full of highbrow putdowns and polysyllabic scorn—from Leo’s terrific 2003 release, Hearts of Oak, could tell you that.
Leo’s well-documented wordiness is noticeably subdued on Shake the Sheets, but a lack of clutter isn’t the reason the record succeeds (especially when you consider how Ted has made pretension work wonders for him before).
No, the true revelations of Shake the Sheets are resiliency and hope, determination in the face of adversity and faith in a beneficent outcome. Some harried liberals may feel themselves forced into a corner, able only to lash out hopelessly at real or imagined aggressors, but Leo (in this year of all years) has taken a doggedly proactive stance, trying to rally support as the race enters the home stretch.
The best Leo can offer in the way of bile is an allusion on the title track to baboons and excrement, and if you’ve heard “The Ballad of the Sin Eater” (typical line: “someday they’ll do the Wa-Tutsi / Down in Hutu hell”) it’s clear his heart lies elsewhere.
Instead, Leo would rather pull up the proverbial bootstraps and hunker down in the trenches. He says “I’m worried for my tired country”, but his real concerns are more pragmatic than nakedly political, giving equal time on “The Angels’ Share” to “melodies to help a girl pay rent” as he does to an “open letter to a president”.
But Leo’s ennobling samaritanism doesn’t end there. He puts the “civil” back in civil disobedience on the title track, vowing to help right institutional wrongs while promising “I respect the covenant / I respect the rules”. And on the album’s spiritual nexus, “Little Dawn”, Leo entreats, “go on and stretch your weary hand to me” before launching into a hypnotic repetition of the most alien-sounding catchphrase of this campaign season: “it’s alright”.
The review goes on to complain about Leo's "blue-collar rock" fetish, his Thin Lizzy aping and whatnot. With this I disagree. I dig the sound. I played the album for my friend the other night, he says to me, "This guy sounds like Rick Springfield." My response: "I know. Ain't it cool?" Trust me, it is. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:29 am |
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A radio DJ by the name of John Peel just died at the age of 65. If you go to any British media outlet, this will be the lead story. For an outsider, it will be difficult to why a mere spinner of records would warrant such eulogising.
He was a great broadcaster, but the true secret of John Peel’s success was his love of music, particularly new music, music that was different and music with edge. He took great delight in unearthing talent, playing their poor quality demos, arranging professional sessions, launching careers. That he maintained his appetite for rock music for nearly 50 years is astounding. For me, as a teenager marooned in suburbia, he was a saviour. He was the only DJ on national radio to give air time to punk. Although in the mid-seventies, he gave some air time to the new sounds coming out of New York, his staple was progressive and heavy rock. A show would typically include the likes of T-Rex, Led Zeppelin, Niel Young, Bowie or The Who, but always with a surprises, Captain Beefheart was a favourite. However, by the end of 1976 is show was almost totally devoted to punk. If you’ve ever owned a punk bootleg by the likes of The Damned, The Mekons, The Gang Of Four, The Buzzcocks, The Sugar Cubes, The Slits, Souxsie And The Banshees the chances are it is from a Peel session. He later went on to champion the likes of Joy Divison, New Order, The Smiths and so on. This was his strength. Most of us have a brief rock ‘n’ roll period, yes we still listen to rock music, but we tend to hark back to that golden age when we first decided to see what the world had to offer. John Peel, however, was an eternal teenager. It might give you an indication of the flavour of the man to know that his favourite record was by one of the bands he championed, Teenage Kicks by The Undertones.
He also broke Dire Straights, but we can forgive him that.
RIP John Peel (Rock ‘n’ roll hero) |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:38 am |
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| There's no doubt the importance of John Peel. He also turned a whole lot of people onto a little band from Duluth, MN, Low. Their Peel Sessions, along with the Cocteau Twins and Joy Division are three of my favs. As I'm pushing 40, 65 seems too young to die. Shame. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:14 am |
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| John Peel was the first deejay to play my song 88 LINES ABOUT 44 WOMAN. It was because of Peel, that RCA signed my band. For a brief period a few years ago, Peel and I were communicating via e-mail. I sent him some of my new solo work. He was very supportive. What a wonderful man. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:36 am |
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I was terribly sad to hear the news, even though I hardly knew the man. Like many others, I felt I knew him from his voice on the radio. He was the contradiction of every bad thing you could say about radio. He had an open mind about music, whether he was bringing the listener the Incredible String Band or the Fall, Mike Hart or Echo and the Bunnymen, and countless bands that appeared only to be heard on his great shows. Our brief conversations were centred on our mutual love of Liverpool FC. A great man, a fabulous curmudgeon, he was as rare as the music that he loved."
Elvis Costello
"John Peel's patronage was for me, like countless other musicians, one of the most significant things that happened to us in our careers. The world is going to be a poorer place with his sudden departure. I will miss him deeply. I want to send my heartfelt sympathy to his lovely family. John's memory will never be forgotten because he had the spirit of music in him."
Damon Albarn, Blur
"In the autumn of 1978 something happened that was to change my life forever, John Peel played Teenage Kicks on the radio for the very first time. Today, it just changed again, forever. We have just lost the single most important broadcaster we have ever known. It was John's efforts that brought us Jimi Hendrix, T Rex, The Undertones and countless others, music that touch the lives of millions." For that, we should all be thankful. A man who became a legend in his own lifetime and thoroughly deserved every minute of it. It has been an honour to have known John, it would be an honour to meet him again someday, even if it is only to join him staring vacantly out the window. My thoughts are with Sheila and all the family."
Feargal Sharkey, The Undertones
"It would be absolutely impossible to write the history of the last 40 years of British music without mentioning John Peel's name. He was one of the few people about whom you could truly say that the world would have been a much different place without him. On the few occasions I was fortunate enough to meet him I found him to be a witty but quite shy man who was completely unimpressed by the 'razzmatazz' of the music industry but who could instantly lay his hands on any obscure single you could mention hearing on his show whilst in your teens. John Peel stuck up for the 'sore thumbs' of the music scene and I really can't think of anyone who could have done it better or who's going to do it now he's gone. I will miss him greatly and my utmost sympathy goes out to his friends and family."
Jarvis Cocker, Pulp
"I am greatly saddened to hear of the death of John Peel and my thoughts are with his wife Sheila and his family. He was the first DJ to play my music and has remained a good mate over the years. Throughout his career, John Peel defined independent music. Although he became an institution at the BBC, he was, in effect, running his own pirate radio station from within the corporation, introducing us to music that could not be heard on any other radio show. Those artists, like myself, who benefitted from his eclectic enthusiasm have lost a champion, but the listeners have lost a true friend."
Billy Bragg
"He was very inclusive of all kinds of music, very open-minded, and introduced a lot of diverse music to the public. He championed Welsh language music and for years was the only DJ on national radio who was willing to embrace it. He was very wary of trends such as Britpop, he was introducing people to drum 'n' bass and techno, things that were going on outside the media."
Gruff Rhys, Super Furry Animals
"It was because of him I got to hear some of the most obscure but influential music I ever heard. He was a lifeline to hearing music I would never have heard otherwise. He was a portal to a whole new world."
James Dean Bradfield, Manic Street Preachers
"This is a dreadful shock. If it wasn't for John Peel, there would be no Joy Division and no New Order. He was one of the few people to give bands that played alternative music a chance to be heard, and he continued to be a champion of cutting-edge music throughout his life. He will be genuinely missed by millions of music fans all over the world, both inside and outside the music industry. Our thoughts are with his family."
Bernard Sumner, New Order
"He was a very funny, very warm man and we will always be grateful for what he did for The Undertones. Personally, I find it incredible what he did for the band and we always got huge pride out of the fact that he said Teenage Kicks was his favourite single. He always had his finger on the pulse of the music industry and the fact that Radio 1 played the Undertones, the White Stripes and the Strokes today showed just how relevant he remained throughout his career."
Michael Bradley, The Undertones
"John Peel played a single but crucial role in my early career. He played our first single, Electricity, on his evening show and thanks to him it sold out its first 5,000 run within a week. We both came from the same part of the world, the Wirral, but that was not why he chose to play it. He played music because he liked it, not because he was being told to play it. There will be many musicians and bands out there today who feel a debt of gratitude to John Peel. I am certainly one of them. This is a hugely sad day."
Andy Mcluskey, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark
"He was the first person to ever play us on the radio, which I am sure lots of people can say. I only met him once and was genuinely awestruck - it felt like meeting a relative, a distant uncle or something like that. He was a warm and lovely man. I can't think of anyone more loved in British music. We owe him everything."
Guy Garvey, Elbow |
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| jeremy |
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Every year John Peel would invite viewers to nominate their favourite three records (no constraints - just their favourite three records). The resulting top fifty chart, known as John Peel's Festive Fifty, and was played over couple of nights or so over the Chritmas Period. It was my radio highlight of the year. I've still got a few lying around on C60 cassettes. This is the one from 1980:
John Peel's Festive Fifty 1980
Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the UK
Joy Division - Atmosphere
Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
Jam - Down in the Tube Station at Midnight
Clash - White Man in Hammersmith Palais
Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
Undertones - Teenage Kicks
Damned - New Rose
Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative Ulster
Joy Division - Transmission
Public Image Ltd. - Public Image
Sex Pistols - Holidays in the Sun
Jam - Going Underground
Joy Division - Decades
Clash - Complete Control
Stiff Little Fingers - Johnny Was
Undertones - Get Over You
Cure - A Forest
Ruts - In a Rut
Joy Division - New Dawn Fades
The Fall - Totally Wired
Joy Division - She's Lost Control
Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant
Stiff Little Fingers - Suspect Device
Sex Pistols - God Save the Queen
The Fall - How I Wrote `Elastic Man'
Stiff Little Fingers - Wasted life
Only Ones - Another Girl, Another Planet
Damned - Love song
Adam and the Ants - Kings of the wild frontier
Dead Kennedys - California Uber Alles
Specials - Gangsters
Public Image Ltd. - Poptones
Public Image Ltd. - Careering
Killing Joke - Requiem
Killing Joke - Psyche
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Jigsaw Feeling
The Fall - Fiery Jack
Clash - Armagideon Time
Spizz Energi - Where's Captain Kirk
Joy Division - Twenty-Four Hours
Damned - Smash it up
Teardrop Explodes - Treason
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Switch
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Icon
Clash - Bankrobber
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Hong Kong Garden
Clash - White Riot
The Fall - Rowche Rumble
Gang of Four - Damaged Goods
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Love in a void
Killing Joke - Wardance
Adam and the Ants - Dog Eat Dog
Ruts - West One (Shine on me)
Who - My generation
Mo-dettes - White Mice
Stiff Little FIngers - Tin Soldiers
Stranglers - No More Heroes
Jam - Eton Rifles
Pink Floyd - Shine on you crazy diamond
Magazine - Shot by both sides
Public Image Ltd. - Death disco
Led Zeppelin - Stairway to heaven
Joy Division - Dead souls
Wah! Heat - Better Scream
If your interested, the link gives the others.http://www.rocklist.net/festive50.htm |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:35 pm |
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I had several Peel Sessions LPs back in the day and they were all wonderful to listen to and it gave me another side of the artist/band that you don't get from the studio releases.
R.I.P. John Peel.... and thanks to him for his contribution to musical diversity. |
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| Macca00 |
| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:43 pm |
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jeremy & other posters have outlined the importance of John Peel to U.K. music over the last four decades.
As has been said, his early 70s radio show on BBC Radio 1 tended to feature then aspiring artists such as David Bowie & Marc Bolan. He also featured a fair amount of 70s prog rock, but we'll forgive him for that. It was also in this period that he championed reggae, a courageous & principled policy (this was at a time when casual racism was accepted in mainstream British society & the neo-nazi National Front threatened to make electoral headway in British elections).
I was 14 in 1977 & at the suggestion of a schoolfriend who denounced Deep Purple, Slade & other abominations, I began to listen to John Peel's nightly radio show. Punk had arrived & Peel embraced it with gusto. This teenager was soon converted to the new creed.
I heard the news of John Peel's death at work today & those of us of a certain age just looked at each other, we didn't need to say anything. It reminded me of the day that Joe Strummer's death was reported.
I went to a gig by The Waterboys in Liverpool earlier. Passionate, stirring, heartfelt, uplifting, my God, they were tight, focused & sharp. Special mention to Steve Wyckham on fiddle; on one number about Hendrix, he made his electric fiddle sound like a Fender Stratocaster. Lead singer, Mike Scott told the audience that The Waterboys got their first radio airplay through John Peel's radio show & then launched into a charming, yet stirring version of Van Morrison's "Sweet Thing", dedicating it to Peel.
John Peel had a dry wit, a shy & genuinely modest disposition, a limitless appetite for new music & a passion for the city of Liverpool (he grew up nearby), its bands & football. We've lost a treasured "Kopite". |
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