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carrobin
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:31 am Reply with quote
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Tuesday night I was watching "The Artist" on TCM, which still has some of its Oscar tribute going, and found it funny and appealing, but really, Best Picture? More evidence that the Academy voters will go for any film about show business. (But the dog wasn't even nominated…)
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whiskeypriest
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:56 am Reply with quote
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carrobin wrote:
Tuesday night I was watching "The Artist" on TCM, which still has some of its Oscar tribute going, and found it funny and appealing, but really, Best Picture? More evidence that the Academy voters will go for any film about show business. (But the dog wasn't even nominated…)
I agree, a good movie but it does not s ream Osxar to me. None of the BP nominees that year did, though. Of course the best movie of that year - and the century to date - didn't get a BP nomination.

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:09 pm Reply with quote
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While we're reaming Osxar, you make reference to foreign language films being a separate category and not eligible for BP. I guess it's like hoping that an Iranian can win the Miss American contest...just not going to happen. (though you do see a lot of "brazilians" in that contest)(0-8--->===)

As for Fargo, yeah, should have gone home with a grocery cart full of bald statues. Then again, Minnesota accents, almost a foreign film....

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whiskeypriest
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:22 pm Reply with quote
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Well, Foreign Language films ARE eligible for Oscars, in the same way I am eligible to be president. Though foreign films sometimes do get nomnated.

The Artist reminded me of a line from Shakespeare in Love: See? That's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog.

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Syd
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They haven't won the big one yet, although Foreign Language films do occasionally win other awards, including acting and technical awards. Talk to Her won Original Screenplay, which I've always been happy about.

Amour was nominated for Best Picture a few years ago, and I remember Il Postino, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Life is Beautiful before that. I remember some speculation that Tiger/Dragon might actually win it.

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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:57 pm Reply with quote
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whiskeypriest wrote:
You know what is a bigger Oscar travesty than Gooding over Macy? Fargo losing to what seemed to be six hours of sand.


Well, that is such a no-brainer that I didn't even mention it. Those who know, and you know who you are, know that TEP is my least favorite Oscarwinning movie of all time. Period. Paragraph. End of story.
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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:00 pm Reply with quote
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carrobin wrote:
Tuesday night I was watching "The Artist" on TCM, which still has some of its Oscar tribute going, and found it funny and appealing, but really, Best Picture? More evidence that the Academy voters will go for any film about show business. (But the dog wasn't even nominated…)


Nice little movie, but not remotely Oscar-worthy. I am assuming whiskey is referencing A Separation, which I agree is the best movie of the century so far...(tied with Boyhood).
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Life is Beautiful is the only film I condemn to hell without ever having seen it.
it is incomprehensible that I should expect to be amused by such a story. Protect a child from factory-like monsters with one's wits?! Is that up to the time the youngster's brains are bashed in? I don't know details, but it disrespects history in a most cynical way.

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knox
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Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be great film, but there is nothing cynical there. More to the point, why go online to fulminate against a film you haven't even seen?
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whiskeypriest
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:41 am Reply with quote
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knox wrote:
Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be great film, but there is nothing cynical there. More to the point, why go online to fulminate against a film you haven't even seen?
I have seen it and found it loathsome.

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I remember la Vita e Bella as silly, but not grounded enough in anything to overtly hate. It was fantasy. Some found an emotional dynamic that they liked, I guess, perhaps regarding how adults shield children too much. Or how fantasy keeps some people from going insane in an ordeal.

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I forget how I felt about Life Is Beautiful, because I have been so turned off by Roberto Benigni's real-life personality that I cannot approach his work objectively.
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carrobin
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:02 am Reply with quote
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I didn't hate LIB, but it didn't make much of an impression and I don't remember much about it. The main thing I remember is Benigni climbing over the seats at the Oscars.
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Syd
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:30 am Reply with quote
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A Cat in Paris. A rewatch, but still delightful. The film has an odd animation style which is deliberate. For example, all the good guys have almond-shaped eyes, while the bad guys have round eyes. Little Zoe's cat has a secret night life as the companion of a cat burglar with a heart of gold. Zoe's father was killed by Costa, a gangster with an insane obsession with the Colossus of Nairobi. Zoe's mother, meanwhile, is the police chief who is simultaneously chasing the cat burglar and Costa. And one night Zoe wonders where her cat is off to in the evenings... The whole thing is a little over an hour long, and most kids and their parents too will get a kick out of it. The English dubbing is fine, as is the original French with subtitles. (8.5 of 10)

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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:38 am Reply with quote
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Although you might not think The Artist or The King's Speech as screaming Best Picture, there is something to be said of a Best Picture that is infinitely rewatchable. I'd gladly watch either picture any time I get a chance.

Chicago wasn't necessarily the best picture of 2002, but I've watched more often than any other best picture of the last fifty years, if only because it has a wonderfully performed soundtrack.

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