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bartist
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:28 am Reply with quote
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Where are these "mixed" responses to Nebraska? It's getting almost nothing except flat-out raves. The only negative I've read is from David Denby in The New Yorker. He's all wet on that one.


That Denby pan may have been the one (combined with a couple local people who saw the film as rather unkind to Nebraskans) - I, however, liked it, though it may be my least favorite Payne film (which is not really a pan). I enjoyed the landscapes, and the photography was generally top-notch, many shots of places I'm connected to and Payne really shows what a great eye he has for the telling details. I liked the comic moments, the air compressor theft in particular, but found some of the rural caricature a little off - Payne knows Omaha, but I'm not sure he has fully figured out the rest of the state. Some things rang very true, other things didn't - I'm not really keeping a scorecard. Some fine acting, Dern in particular as an old drunk descending into dementia but who still has some spark and resistance to going gently.

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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:56 am Reply with quote
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Denby's pan centered almost completely on his dislike of Dern's character, which was IMO the best single thing about the film.
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:45 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Inside Llewyn Davis is a good-not-great film by the Coen Brothers. Better than most of their movies, it's still not a Coen classic. Well acted and photographed and possessing a wonderful soundtrack full of folk music, it's the character study of a very self-destructive folk singer with a wildly erratic personality. Oscar Isaac is extremely convincing and quite sympathetic as this infuriating man, and he's backed by a good supporting cast including Carey Mulligan, Justin Timberlake, John Goodman, F. Murray Abraham, and a host of well-chosen character types. All the other characters besiides Llewyn, however, are either cameos or extended cameos.

The movie is essentially plotless and depends entirely on one's interest in the character of Llewyn Davis. He's a fascinating character and, as noted, well acted--but it's not enough to make this a great film. Good, however, it is.

As for yours truly and my vaunted presence, you can recognize me as a blurry white-haired image in the background of one scene if you know exactly where to look and are willing to ignore the rather important and amusing dialogue taking place in the foreground. (In other words, if you're me.)

Hey, whatever, I'm definitely there.


I'd rather watch you than anything else in a Coen Brothers film, any day of the week. Of course, I'd prefer a performance where you aren't blury in the background, but beggers can't be choosers. Smile

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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:25 pm Reply with quote
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"Nebraska" turned up here - not bad, Payne going back to indie roots with a low budget and mostly unknown cast (except for the Bruce) and B/W. Comparable to About Schmidt in being a character study dramedy with separated family reconnecting. I rank this above About Schmidt, maybe on a par with Citizen Ruth. The bit with vacuous yokels sitting around a living room might have been slightly overdone, but not much. The two fat cousins, giggling over "Billings to Hawthorne in TWO DAYS," and boasting about their driving times across the plains, was dead on.
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marantzo
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:36 pm Reply with quote
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I really liked About Schmidt. Billy really didn't like About Schmidt. Smile
bartist
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:08 pm Reply with quote
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knox wrote:
....The two fat cousins, giggling over "Billings to Hawthorne in TWO DAYS," and boasting about their driving times across the plains, was dead on.


Was it ever. That long haul machismo is everywhere. Even a city friend, closer to her roots than I am, has been known to tease me about making the Lincoln-Rapid City run in ten hours. Eight hours, easy! What, are you afraid to put the pedal to the metal in the Sandhills? Take Highway 2, trims off 70 miles! I-90 is for pussies! Etc.


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The Highways instead of Interstates have way more cops waiting for speeders. Believe me, I've driven them. And they also have town after town with speed limits constantly going down from 60/65 to 50 then 45 then 35/30 until you get through or alongside the towns. Maybe not in the Sandhills?

When you are using the Interstate you can always go 5 miles over the speed limit. A few guys I've talked to in the saloons when I'm travelling have told me that you can drive 10 MPH over the limits, but I don't take that chance.
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:04 pm Reply with quote
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Yeah, you have to slow down at all the towns on the highways, and there are plenty of speed traps there where you come into town. I like the little two-lanes when I really want to look at the country and make several stops. I tend to drift a little over the speed limit on the Interstates, but not 10 mph over - kills my gas mileage, too.

Speaking of speed, I guess it wasn't Walker driving that Porsche fast and furiously - he was the passenger.

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Do you have a button that can lock your speed? When I'm on the Interstate and there isn't a lot of traffic I lock my speed at 5 mph over the speed limit. When I pass the cop cars watching for speeders, they never stop me.
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:48 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
Do you have a button that can lock your speed? When I'm on the Interstate and there isn't a lot of traffic I lock my speed at 5 mph over the speed limit. When I pass the cop cars watching for speeders, they never stop me.


Isn't that called "cruise control"? Don't they use that term in the North Country?
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gromit
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:05 am Reply with quote
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Yeah, 5 miles over the speed limit is considered acceptable variance, and on highways you can generally go up to 10 mph over the limit. But that 10 is a tricky grey line, and 11 is where they almost always will pull you over, unless they just don't bother. Cruise control at 5 above the posted limit is a pretty smart way to motor.

When you drive a lot you get to know which states are into ticketing (Ohio!), where some common speed traps are, and can even recognize potential speed traps (clusters of trees on either side of an overpass, etc.).
I really dislike when they radar cars on steep downhills or just after the speed limit drops a good deal. Kind of devious.
I always flash my lights to alert the other direction of cops up ahead, unless some idiot is going 100 mph, and then he deserves to be ticketed.

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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:11 am Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
I really liked About Schmidt. Billy really didn't like About Schmidt. Smile


Not just Billy.

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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:22 am Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
marantzo wrote:
I really liked About Schmidt. Billy really didn't like About Schmidt. Smile


Not just Billy.


I like-to-love every other Alexander Payne movie so far. Election, Nebraska, and (in particular) Sideways are three of my favorite movies of the past 15 years. And Citizen Ruth and The Descendants have a ton of stuff to recommend them. But About Schmidt I don't remotely like. Nicholson can be a real honest-to-goodness turnoff for me, and here he achieves that status.
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bartist
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:29 am Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
Do you have a button that can lock your speed? When I'm on the Interstate and there isn't a lot of traffic I lock my speed at 5 mph over the speed limit. When I pass the cop cars watching for speeders, they never stop me.


Isn't that called "cruise control"? Don't they use that term in the North Country?


LOL. Never had cc, tending to minimalist subcompacts (except for a youthful dalliance with a 1965 Mustang). Once almost bought a Yugo, but the engine block was coated with oil and I had to pass. Most fun car was a 65 Beetle. You could jack up the back and drop the engine block out and work on it. A marvel of simplicity. And no danger of speeding tickets, no matter how you might try.

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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:37 am Reply with quote
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I found About Schmidt annoying and tedious.
Seemed like the outline of a treatment that wasn't flashed out properly.
I'm usually a Jack fan.

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