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| billyweeds |
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:00 am |
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Speaking of Kirk Douglas, i saw Kubrick's Paths of Glory for the very first time this week. Can scarcely believe I've never caught this before. (It's the only Kubrick film I hadn't seen.) It's a great movie, an impassioned anti-war diatribe set in the thick of WWI, with stark yet gorgeous black-and-white photography and a passel of vivid performances. Without Douglas's active participation as green-lighter and producer (as well as star), however, it never would have gotten made. Much has been said about Kirk Douglas as the quintessential Hollywood egomaniac, but his heart could obviously be in the right place and he put his money where his mouth was. He's one of my very favorite movie stars.
He's supported briliiantly in Paths of Glory by George Macready, Ralph Meeker, and Adolphe Menjou. And Kubrick's direction is stunning--sometimes a touch arty, but tight and focused and unrelenting. This winds up as possibly my second-favorite Kubrick, and interestingly the cast includes Timothy Carey and Emile Meyer from my still-favorite SK movie The Killing. |
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| bartist |
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:44 am |
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| Yam and Carro - I understand the appeal of Baghdad Cafe, but somehow it didn't add up to all that much for me, in spite of Jack Palance's quirky desert rat and the dialog-minimal Fraulein. It's a unique film, but unique didn't prevent it from being self-conscious in its caricatures, and turgid with weirdness. Rather than engage with the characters, I mostly had this feeling of a film school experiment in which metaphors were set loose to wander about and bump into each other. |
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| billyweeds |
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:28 am |
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| As for Bagdad Cafe, I'm definitely on the yam/carro side. I adore that movie, most especially for Jack Palance's astonishing performance, unlike anything he ever did before or after, and IMO a master acting class in itself. CCH Pounder and Marianne Sagebrecht are both brilliant, too, and the songs are among my favorite movie tunes of all time. That cabaret ditty rhyming "Mojave" with "you savvy?" is a particular delight. And "Calling You" is just simply great. Lovelovelove this movie. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:51 am |
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Yeah, many love this movie. One of those cases where I get to be the curmudgeon in the corner. But, full disclosure, I've seen BD ONCE, so pay me no mind. I will watch it again and see what happens.
PS - love, venerate, and sing the praises of Paths of Glory. Kubrick at his finest. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:33 am |
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I enjoyed Bagdad Cafe the first time I saw it. I think it helped that it was a random find on cable (after having heard that it was good).
But when I re-watched it 2 or 3 years back it was just all right.
Context? Mood? Repeat viewing issues?
Not sure ... |
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| marantzo |
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:47 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Speaking of Kirk Douglas, i saw Kubrick's Paths of Glory for the very first time this week. Can scarcely believe I've never caught this before. (It's the only Kubrick film I hadn't seen.) It's a great movie, an impassioned anti-war diatribe set in the thick of WWI, with stark yet gorgeous black-and-white photography and a passel of vivid performances. Without Douglas's active participation as green-lighter and producer (as well as star), however, it never would have gotten made. Much has been said about Kirk Douglas as the quintessential Hollywood egomaniac, but his heart could obviously be in the right place and he put his money where his mouth was. He's one of my very favorite movie stars.
He's supported briliiantly in Paths of Glory by George Macready, Ralph Meeker, and Adolphe Menjou. And Kubrick's direction is stunning--sometimes a touch arty, but tight and focused and unrelenting. This winds up as possibly my second-favorite Kubrick, and interestingly the cast includes Timothy Carey and Emile Meyer from my still-favorite SK movie The Killing.
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments, but there is a certain part that could have done better. Spoiler: I saw the movie three times and the scene very very near the end where they hang the men annoyed me with its length. The acting was very good and very disturbing, but SK dragged it tooooooo long.
I loved Baghdad Cafe. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:19 pm |
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marantzo wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments, but there is a certain part that could have done better. Spoiler: I saw the movie three times and the scene very very near the end where they hang the men annoyed me with its length. The acting was very good and very disturbing, but SK dragged it tooooooo long.
SPOILER It was a firing squad. No one got hung. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:21 pm |
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Yeah, you're right of course. I guess I mixed it up with The Conspirator at the gallows, spoiler, it was also too drawn out (it reminded me of Paths of Glory when I saw it). |
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:54 am |
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Nothing But the Truth is a 2008 ripped-from-the-headlines thriller from Rod Lurie, a fictionalized version of the Judith Miller/Valerie Plame saga where Miller was jailed for refusing to name her sources. The movie never received a proper release but is available on DVD and should be seen by anyone who 1) likes Law & Order; 2) likes intelligent moviemaking; 3) likes to watch great acting. There are no less than three simply magnificent performances here. Kate Beckinsale (never a favorite of mine) burns up the screen as the some-might-(wrongly)-opine-over-principled journalist who stays in jail for a long, long time. Vera Farmiga (always a favorite of mine) is indelible as the Plame surrogate. And Alan Alda (an off-and-on favorite of mine) is superb as Beckinsale's lawyer.
The film features a powerhouse cast in almost all the roles--Angela Bassett (wasted here but always great to watch), Matt Dillon (as the "bad" lawyer who is really just doing his job), and David Schwimmer as Beckinsale's husband who lets his sexual needs ruin the marriage.
Beckinsale and Farmiga and Alda all give eminently award-worthy performances and Lurie's writing and direction is impeccable. The movie can be fairly criticized for a certain superficiality, but what a story! And an ending which I wouldn't divulge for the world but which will gobsmack you where you live. This movie is a genuine find. Seek it out! |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:41 pm |
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Finally caught up to Svankmajer's Alice.
It's loosely based on Alice in Wonderland.
Svankmajer comes up with a number of clever ways of visualizing things. When the little girl shrinks she becomes a doll which is then animated with stop-motion techniques. When Alice is large, sometimes she is put into the small-scale sets. But a couple of times, the girl is inside a large paper-mache Alice doll, which is a weird effect.
I also liked how the Red Queen is a cut-out from the playing card and once she goes through a door whose opening is exactly her figure. Wonderfully weird and simple. I prefer his 2nd feature, Faust, but Alice is quite a good start to his feature filmmaking. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:16 pm |
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The Shawshank Redemption. It's unbelievable that it's the first time I've seen this film, and my only excuse is that I'm intimidated by its IMDb rating. It's also unbelievable that I'm apparently the first person to review it on Third Eye.
Okay, it's not my personal choice for #1; it drags now and then, is sometimes obvious, is episodic and goes on a bit too long at the end, has sometimes cartoonish performances by the bad guys, but it's also a fine movie, with two excellent lead performances by Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman. Although Robbins is the hero, Freeman is the one with the character arc, and you could argue that in a way, this is his story. It's about his redemption, after all.
The film didn't do very well at the box office (partly because it was a film that needed time for word-of-mouth to develop, and it was withdrawn prematurely), and got a bunch of Oscar nominations which it lost to Forrest Gump, but it's easily the better movie. The Shawshank Redemption is about the things that make us better humans, including music (in a deservedly iconic scene), literature, hope, mercy, loyalty, freedom, etc., and not always in an expected way. It's also about the things that make us worse humans, too, but the message is somewhat hopeful. [There are a lot of prisoners left behind.]
Some people are surprised that the movie is based on a story by Stephen King, but that's because they don't realise that King is far more than a horror writer. He writes in different genres in different styles and is one of our finest writers, when he wants to be. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:34 pm |
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I Still haven't seen Shawshank.
Though I have a copy somewhere and have vaguely meant to at various times.
I seem to recall it being discussed here years back. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:40 pm |
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I've seen Shawshank more than once. It's a fantastic film, and together with Pulp Fiction constitutes one of my major exhibits in the Oscar-gets-it-wrong-most-of-the-time lecture. They both lost to Gump, and although most people disagree, I would give the Oscar to Shawshank over even Pulp Fiction.
Stand By Me is also based on Stephen King, as is Dolores Claiborne, far from a horror flick. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:41 pm |
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gromit wrote: Finally caught up to Svankmajer's Alice.
It's loosely based on Alice in Wonderland.
Svankmajer comes up with a number of clever ways of visualizing things. When the little girl shrinks she becomes a doll which is then animated with stop-motion techniques. When Alice is large, sometimes she is put into the small-scale sets. But a couple of times, the girl is inside a large paper-mache Alice doll, which is a weird effect.
I also liked how the Red Queen is a cut-out from the playing card and once she goes through a door whose opening is exactly her figure. Wonderfully weird and simple. I prefer his 2nd feature, Faust, but Alice is quite a good start to his feature filmmaking.
I prefer Alice. Faust is messier and doesn't make that much sense. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:57 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: I've seen Shawshank more than once. It's a fantastic film, and together with Pulp Fiction constitutes one of my major exhibits in the Oscar-gets-it-wrong-most-of-the-time lecture. They both lost to Gump, and although most people disagree, I would give the Oscar to Shawshank over even Pulp Fiction.
Stand By Me is also based on Stephen King, as is Dolores Claiborne, far from a horror flick.
And The Dead Zone as well. |
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