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bartist |
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:15 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Billy, your avatar looks a lot like you, but I think the photo (in colour), doesn't look like it was shot in the early 40's.
Wondered about that, too. They did have color film in the 40's, so maybe. Nice suspenders. |
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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:21 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Billy, your avatar looks a lot like you, but I think the photo (in colour), doesn't look like it was shot in the early 40's.
It's my grandson. Everybody--including the other side of the family--says he looks like me, and I'm mightily flattered, since he is inarguably cute beyond belief.
He will be two years old next month. His name is Emmet Bloom. |
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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:40 pm |
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Thanks Billy. Yes, a very cute kid.
Bart, I have some coloured pictures from the 40's, (taken by non-professional photographers), and the colours garish. Nothing like Billy's avatar. |
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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:52 pm |
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The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes seemed rather flaccid. Especially considering it, a. was written and directed by Billy Wilder, and b. featured Belgians and midgets. Perhaps because the only live Belgian wasn't actually Belgian. Anyway, Robert Stephens never really caught on for me as Holmes.
Anyway, a line at the beginning, about being offered five pounds to find six midgets, "That's not even a pound a midget!" made me laugh for reasons unconnected with the movie. |
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bartist |
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:31 pm |
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It's less than a pound per, unless you can find one with ketamine.
Gary - quite right - I do remember seeing early color prints, the over-saturation and hues that were just off. Even in the 60s, my dad who had worked as a photographer at one point, was adamant about taking all family pictures in B/W because color film still wasn't too good.
Emmet Bloom is cute beyond belief, agreed. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:45 pm |
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Emmet?
One thing that struck me about The Bad Seed was the character names, which sound rather out of date now.
The sociopathic little girl is named Rhoda.
The boy who is drowned is Claude.
The janitor? A white guy named LeRoy (like the director's family name)
And the drunken neighbor ... wait for it ... Hortense.
A host of names that stood out ...
Even some of the family names are odd compound words -- Breedlove (commented upon in the film) and Penmark. Just looking at IMDb and three other surnames, Tasker, Bravo and Wages. I do recall Tasker and Bravo sounding unusual and jarring a bit. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:48 pm |
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Yes, with one "T" like M. Emmet Walsh. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:58 pm |
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emmet -
1. an archaic or dialect word [British] for ant.
[Old English ǣmette = ant]
2. in Cornish dialect a tourist or holiday-maker.
Emmet (Cornish) -
Emmet is a pejorative nickname that some Cornish people use to refer to the tourists who visit Cornwall.
1. Once a dream did weave a shade
O'er my angel-guarded bed
That an emmet lost its way
Where on grass methought I lay.
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:45 pm |
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What can I tell ya? My Emmet ain't no ant, and any tourist group would be lucky to have him as a member. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:08 am |
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Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House - 1948 comedy w/ Myrna Loy and Cary Grant, as a couple who...okay, the title is self-explanatory. Cornball to the max, but anyone who has dealt with a contractor will find this an amusing postcard from the early days of urban flight. The Madison Ave. subplot, wherein Grant tries to find a new slogan for a canned meat, may have gone past its freshness date for the modern viewer. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:46 am |
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It (1927) Clara Bow plays Pennywise, an evil clown who disguises himself as a spunky shopgirl so he/she can lure millionaires to his/her lair where they are seduced and devoured. Bow is very convincing despite having eight sexy legs and five expressive eyes. The screams continued in "It Happened One Night, "It Conquered the World" and "Whip It."
Tired of playing the same roles, Bow retired to a ranch in Montana to consume her victims at leisure. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:39 am |
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As far as the real movie it, it has problems, although there is a lot to like about it. I usually like Clara Bow, but her character her alternates between being heroic, being spunky, and being dishonest, and the object of her manipulations strikes me as being unworthy of them. The comic relief, Monty Montgomery, is actually treated pretty badly, and is silly but actually would probably be a more decent husband. It's implied at the end that Monty and the rejected almost fiancee might wind up together, which is a better pairing than the two leads.
And, no, Monty is not gay. It's obvious that he's interested in the opposite sex (after all, he's the one who realized the only salesgirl who has "it" is the one who's played by Clara Bow, and promptly did his best to pick her up), but not that good at landing a girlfriend. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:05 am |
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It's odd that a film as popular and influential as it was actually lost for decades. You'd expect it of less important films, but not of a film that spawned a famous description like the 'It Girl.'
There's a frankly embarrassing cameo appearance by Elinor Glyn explaining what "it" is, which we've already had several explanations of. She was an adept and banal self-promoter who expressed a pretty obvious idea that Rudyard Kipling (of all people) had expressed decades before, and more eloquently. Fortunately, the movie escapes her and goes in its own direction.
Incidentally, the movie itself proclaims the title is it without a capital, but immediately undermines it with "IT" in the background. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:27 am |
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How odd that the influence of this film on Stephen King's famous novel of the same title (and infamous 1990 TV miniseries adaptation) is rarely mentioned. The wiki on King's novel makes no mention at all of the original film. I am sure there are many people, like me, who assumed that King's "It" was an original work.
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:36 pm |
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I think it's interesting that It went from a femme fatale to a hairy male cousin that spoke gibberish (adding an extra "t" to his name: to emphasize the female-to-male transition?) before finally settling down as an evil clown in a small town. Apparently, It originally came from outer space. |
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