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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:17 pm Reply with quote
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carrobin--It's a weird situation, but strangely understandable.

Esther Williams was my first movie star crush. My grandfather was working at MGM in the publicity department and sent me an autographed picture of Esther when I was eight years old. I was totally thrilled. Later I learned she and I share a birthday. Her 1999 autobiography, Million Dollar Mermaid, is surprisingly funny and sardonic in a way you would never expect from the sweet, rather bland, mediocre actress that she was. She obviously was a witty woman, as well as a dynamite swimmer--and swell-looking to boot. R.I.P.
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:30 pm Reply with quote
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RIP Esther. Nice woman but i didn't like any of her movies.
carrobin
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:08 pm Reply with quote
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I liked her movies, but don't remember anything about them except that they were always in bright tropical locations and featured girl swimmers who liked to dive under the surface and wave their legs in the air.
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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:40 pm Reply with quote
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They always featured a comic (often Red Skelton), a romantic vis-a-vis for Esther, tons of choreographed swimming routines in glorious Technicolor, and songs. Only one movie was better than average. It was Neptune's Daughter, where Esther, Ricardo Montalban, Red, and Betty Garrett sang the great Frank Loesser Oscarwinning standard-to-be "Baby, It's Cold Outside."
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:36 pm Reply with quote
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I was trying to remember the only Esther Williams movie that I didn't dislike. Neptune's Daughter! That was it.

Wasn't it her first big film?
bartist
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:05 am Reply with quote
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Looks like Much Ado will arrive in only about six theaters outside of NY or LA today. Deplorable.

Frances Ha is here, but I'm just not that into Gerwig's mumble-charm. Guess Marc wasn't that wowed by it.

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carrobin
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:15 am Reply with quote
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The NY Times gives "Much Ado" a rave. But apparently it's showing at only one theater, at Lincoln Center. With all the publicity it's been getting, I would have thought it would be more accessible.

http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/movies/much-ado-about-nothing-directed-by-joss-whedon.html?ref=arts&_r=0
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billyweeds
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:49 pm Reply with quote
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carrobin wrote:
The NY Times gives "Much Ado" a rave. But apparently it's showing at only one theater, at Lincoln Center. With all the publicity it's been getting, I would have thought it would be more accessible.

http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/movies/much-ado-about-nothing-directed-by-joss-whedon.html?ref=arts&_r=0


Carol--They're obviously "platforming" it, starting small and opening wider if and when audiences respond. I can understand the strategy. Shakespeare ain't exactly The Avengers.
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billyweeds
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:56 pm Reply with quote
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bartist wrote:
I'm just not that into Gerwig's mumble-charm.


Hear, here! (Whichever.) Her performance in Damsels in Distress was one of the most annoying I can remember, and Baghead wasn't much better. She was okay in The House of the Devil, where she was killed off real early, and in Greenberg, where she was directed by Frances Ha's Noah Baumbach.
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carrobin
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:19 pm Reply with quote
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Nothing much happening at the office today, so I'm reading the Daily News. The only four-star review in the arts section is for "Much Ado." ("The Internship" gets one star, and that seems reluctant. Sounds awful.)
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gromit
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:46 pm Reply with quote
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bartist wrote:
I'm just not that into Gerwig's mumble-charm.


Lola Versus was basically a showcase for GG, and I found it really tedious and uncharming.

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marantzo
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:57 pm Reply with quote
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I don't think I've ever seen Gerwig. Guess I didn't miss anything, in fact missed something I probably would have hated.
Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:27 pm Reply with quote
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Williams made up that story about Jeff Chandler in order to boost sales of her autobiography, which was kinda low of her. Otherwise I thought well of her as a savvy dame in the best tradition of savvy dames.

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whiskeypriest
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:57 pm Reply with quote
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carrobin wrote:
The NY Times gives "Much Ado" a rave. But apparently it's showing at only one theater, at Lincoln Center. With all the publicity it's been getting, I would have thought it would be more accessible.

http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/movies/much-ado-about-nothing-directed-by-joss-whedon.html?ref=arts&_r=0
My first three thoughts after reading the review:

1. Whew. Not Dargis. I can see the movie after all.

2. Not Bringing Up Baby. The sexual dynamic is all wrong for Beatrice and Benedick. It Happened One Night, or The Awful Truth.

3. MAaN rises or falls on its Dogberry? DOGBERRY?

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marantzo
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:58 pm Reply with quote
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What did she say about Chandler?

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