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billyweeds
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:11 am Reply with quote
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I will be seeing SW and the H today and am hoping to disagree violently with Joe, whose review I have skipped but whose gist I have gotten.
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bartist
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:28 am Reply with quote
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You think you've gotten the gist, but you'll be lucky to get a C minus on the quiz tomorrow.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:13 am Reply with quote
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LOL to both of you.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:12 am Reply with quote
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Saw Snow White and the Huntsman, and was intermittently enchanted, and intermittently bored. It's a very uneven movie. The visuals are stunning and some of the imagery is inventive. But it goes on too long and Kristen Stewart does approximately nothing for me. Theron does scream a bit much, but her looks make up for a whole lot. The woman is gorgeous. It has the feel of a genuine fairy tale. The CGI'd dwarves didn't add much.
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bartist
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:35 am Reply with quote
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If I were sixteen, it's possible I'd be smitten with Stewart - she does have a presence, I'll give her that. Theron seems to sense the Sunset Boulevardy theme, that her role can be a metaphor for an actress facing the aging process. I can't think of any actress who looks more like a fairy tale monarch than Theron. The 7 British character actors were mildly amusing (partly owing to the game of recognizing them under all the makeup and digital distortion - "Hey, that's Ian McShane!"), and would have been more so if their roles hadn't been so....(searching for an adjective that won't make Peter Dinklage mad at me)....um, abbreviated?

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knox
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:23 am Reply with quote
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I will disagree only on the minor point of casting - true, Theron does look most queenly, but I think the others considered for the role, Jolie and Ryder, would also have worked. Jolie, in particular, also has that austere monarchical look. And Ryder might have pushed it in a less fairy tale direction, more raging goth bitch.

Stewart has a pleasing asymmetry to her features, and a kind of accessibility which I think was perfect - she's not an icy model of perfection, but one of "the people." It makes her devastatingly cute in that way that turns high school boys into putty. But it doesn't mean that she couldn't turn into a fine A-list actress. I see potential there.
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Syd
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:10 am Reply with quote
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Casting Jolie might have been a problem because there are a couple of special effects that would be having everyone shouting "Beowulf!"

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knox
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:07 am Reply with quote
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Is Beowulf worth checking out? I get leery of ancient tales on screen, given the tendency to dissolve into spasms of SFX.

The Theron I'm looking forward to is tomorrow, in Prometheus. A.O. reviews Ridley (Scott on Scott) and sounds a trifle disappointed, but acknowledging some grandeur...

http://movies.nytimes.com/2012/06/08/movies/prometheus-by-ridley-scott-with-noomi-rapace.html?hp
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yambu
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:47 am Reply with quote
Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 6441 Location: SF Bay Area
Syd wrote:
Casting Jolie might have been a problem because there are a couple of special effects that would be having everyone shouting "Beowulf!"
She's callipygous, and that goes a long way with me. Right, Billy?

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bartist
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:12 am Reply with quote
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AO Scott reviews Ridley? That's cute. I'm stuffing my ears and going lalalala. Don't want to harsh the Prometheus buzz.

Yambu - did Mr. Roget throw up on you? (Yes, I went to the dictionary to learn that you said she has a nice butt.)

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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:00 pm Reply with quote
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Why do Americans almost always say butt instead of ass? Ass is much better. Letterman always says ass. And good for him! Laughing
carrobin
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:11 pm Reply with quote
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For some reason, "ass" is considered crude, whereas "butt" is colloquially okay. Don't ask for the rationale--I doubt that there is one.
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:19 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks car, I figured it might be because they think ass is vulgar.
bartist
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:04 pm Reply with quote
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I use both terms, but use "ass" with slightly more reverence. Bum can be used, for a nice limey flavor, and whenever the rhyme is needed in a crude limerick. Kiester is suitable in older mixed company, and bottom should be kept within easy reach for double entendres. Glutes is only for jocks and should generally be avoided. Caboose is too cutesy and was declared an archaism by the Rutgers Usage Panel in 1998. I have other useful facts, but haven't got around to making them up yet.

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gromit
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:04 pm Reply with quote
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carrobin wrote:
For some reason, "ass" is considered crude, whereas "butt" is colloquially okay. Don't ask for the rationale--I doubt that there is one.


I think ass sounds direct, like the body part it is, and is also associated with the less than pleasant -hole.
While butt is sort of euphemistic.
That part, uh, back there.
Your Rear End. Behind. Butt.
It's more directional than specific naming.
All politely referencing your dumper.
Older euphemisms: Seat and Can.
Or switch to French for Derriere.

I think rear end and behind sound a little old-fashioned or discreet these days; butt sounds plain-spoken while still being indirect.

Ass is like the word toilet -- just a little too direct and therefore considered not so polite.

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