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gromit
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:46 pm Reply with quote
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The Deep Blue Sea didn't do much for me. Really wasn't interested in these characters and didn't get enough to be interested in the relationships. And that's the whole point of the film. A fair amount of the dialogue felt forced and unnatural. The conflicts seemed a bit too schematic and yet still a bit nebulous.

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knox
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:14 pm Reply with quote
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Sounds like Terrence Rattigan's an acquired taste. And stage play adaptations have a hard time on screen. Generalization? Yes.
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bartist
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:41 pm Reply with quote
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Checking Friday theater listings, I had a brief spasm of excitment when I spied "Avengers" on the list, only to be disappointed when I clicked for details and it wasn't Mr. Steed and Ms. Peel, but rather some idiotic superhero CGI-gasm in 14 dimensions.

Feh.

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marantzo
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:04 pm Reply with quote
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I think it is supposed to be good. But maybe not.
grace
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:56 pm Reply with quote
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Hey, I'm not completely off topic! Here's a piece on Joss Whedon and his latest release, The Avengers. - http://gawker.com/5906758/joss-whedon-revenge-of-the-nerd. The piece is more background on Whedon than anything about the movie, and any Whedon fans in residence here could possibly have written it in their sleep - yet, I submit it.


marantzo wrote:
I think it is supposed to be good. But maybe not.

I don't know how good it is, but it's making beaucoup d'argent. I think the number is $178M +/- the first week. And from Reuters,

LOS ANGELES (TheWrap.com) - "The Avengers" flexed its muscles overseas, opening at No. 1 in all 39 markets and rolling up $178 million a week ahead of its U.S. debut. Joss Whedon's superhero spectacular earned a whopping $24.7 million in the U.K., Disney's best three-day weekend ever there.

It also took in $19.7 million from Australia, a record $15.9 million from Mexico and another $12.9 million from Korea. In addition to Mexico, "The Avengers" opening was the biggest ever in Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Malaysia, New Zealand and the Philippines.



Granted, none of this makes the movie good, but it *is* good news for Mr. Whedon.


(Anyone else having format issues? I've lost the ability to italicize, link, and who knows what else.)
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:09 pm Reply with quote
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Make no mistake, The Avengers is going to be one of the biggest movies of the decade. It may be good, it may be awful. Doesn't make a whit of difference. The movie is a gold mine. I'm not particularly interested in it, but I will be there for Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk.
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Syd
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All the reviews I've seen have been very positive. I've even heard good things about Ruffalo's Hulk, which I thought was a miscasting.

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knox
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:01 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Make no mistake, The Avengers is going to be one of the biggest movies of the decade. It may be good, it may be awful. Doesn't make a whit of difference. The movie is a gold mine. I'm not particularly interested in it, but I will be there for Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk.


"biggest movies of the decade" in the box office sense, I take it.

I miss the days when they made movies for grownups.
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billyweeds
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:10 am Reply with quote
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knox wrote:
billyweeds wrote:
Make no mistake, The Avengers is going to be one of the biggest movies of the decade. It may be good, it may be awful. Doesn't make a whit of difference. The movie is a gold mine. I'm not particularly interested in it, but I will be there for Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk.


"biggest movies of the decade" in the box office sense, I take it.

I miss the days when they made movies for grownups.


You and me both. Though they still do, once in a while. A Separation is one of the most grownup movies I've ever seen in my life. Granted, it's from Iran, but we takes what we gets.

The Five-Year Engagement and Jeff, Who Lives at Home are also current films that will not insult your intelligence.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:45 pm Reply with quote
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Anyone complaining about a big, mindless action movie coming out just as we hit summer really doesn't understand American movies at all.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:07 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Anyone complaining about a big, mindless action movie coming out just as we hit summer really doesn't understand American movies at all.


The fact is most of the initial reviews for The Avengers are spectacularly good.
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bartist
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:29 pm Reply with quote
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Well, I'm never certain how to read a plea for films for grownups, but I take it to mean: we are tossed a bone now and then, but the feast is for the youth demographic.

As Joe says, that's how the U.S. industry works, and there would be scant funds for films like "Jeff who..." if we didn't have teens constantly feeding at the CGI/superhero/vampire trough.

Ack, I've just postulated a Trickle Down Economics theory for movies!

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gromit
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:40 pm Reply with quote
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My impression has been that for the last decade or more we are getting more films for grown-ups as the population ages.

I just ignore the blockbusters and action films and superhero stuff and gross-out comedies. They're so obviously not for me that it's real easy to tune them out.

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marantzo
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:51 pm Reply with quote
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I go to movies to be entertained. When I have a good time watching a movie, I'm entertained. It can be an all out drama or a wild scifi or hilarious comedy etc. it doesn't matter. A movie can be a very good drama that is close to 100% downer and I wouldn't see it if you paid me. That's not entertaining for me.

Speaking about the comic super-heroes made into movies, there were many that were very good. The first Hellboy, Iron Man, Spiderman, Batman, Xmen, etc, were very good movies and some of the follow ups were also very good. Some of the follow-ups were disappointing. They may have been made to get the young crowd but the real good ones were good for any age. I don't remember ever walking out of a movie of that genre, though of course I avoided the ones I was sure I wouldn't like, but I did walk out of a number of films that were made for "adults". A wasn't thrilled by a number of films that the young crowd ate up but they were enjoyable enough to sit through.

Some of the best films of the last decade or so were animated. Good for all ages.
marantzo
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:09 pm Reply with quote
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I agree with gromit about gross out comedies. They really are made for the 12 to 18 crowd. The American Pie franchise is a good example. I only saw the first one and it was dreck. I would have called it dreck when I was a teenager too.

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