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gromit
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:01 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
But I don't have much tolerance for the precious. (Hated City of Lost Children, and Amelie, which is what Hugo looks like to me.)


Hugo also put me in mind of Caro & Jeunet. From the descriptions -- I haven't seen it yet.

Delicatessen kind of annoyed me. Liked what Lost Children was trying to do. I quite liked Amelie. So I guess those guys were getting better, imo, until they split.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:05 pm Reply with quote
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I've heard the use of language in Amelie is quite beautiful. Of course, this is something lost on me, reading the subtitles.

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marantzo
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:13 am Reply with quote
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Billy, you will love it. Laughing

I only saw the last 30 minutes or so, but when I get back to Winnipeg I'll see if my video store has it.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:51 am Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
Billy, you will love it. Laughing

I only saw the last 30 minutes or so, but when I get back to Winnipeg I'll see if my video store has it.


Gonna watch it asap, maybe today. (For those not in the loop, we're talking about The Angry Red Planet.)
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marantzo
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:09 am Reply with quote
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I'll be interested if you think it is the worst acting by a cast in a movie, ever. Very Happy
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Compare/contrast: "The Brain That Wouldn't Die," which is sometimes referred to as "Jan in the Pan." (I think Mike Nelson was the one who came up with that phrase) It is also spectacularly bad and has some outrageous plot elements that make it a great party film.

At one point, the scientist who has salvaged his wife's head is off searching for a new body that he can attach to the head, and attends a burlesque show in hopes of finding a terrific bod with the conscience-easing virtue of having a not-too-bright head attached -- a stripper seems a natural choice to him, not only in terms of not wasting a good brain, but because it allows a careful inspection before harvesting.

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Gary--Started watching The Angry Red Planet, and although the acting is certainly inept enough for most purposes, still, compared with the bartist-referenced The Brain That Wouldn't Die, as well as Plan 9 from Outer Space and other Ed Wood spectaculars, TARP features acting on Old Vic level.
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marantzo
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:32 pm Reply with quote
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It's not fair to include Ed wood's productions. They are in a class by themselves.
Syd
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bartist wrote:
Compare/contrast: "The Brain That Wouldn't Die," which is sometimes referred to as "Jan in the Pan." (I think Mike Nelson was the one who came up with that phrase) It is also spectacularly bad and has some outrageous plot elements that make it a great party film.

At one point, the scientist who has salvaged his wife's head is off searching for a new body that he can attach to the head, and attends a burlesque show in hopes of finding a terrific bod with the conscience-easing virtue of having a not-too-bright head attached -- a stripper seems a natural choice to him, not only in terms of not wasting a good brain, but because it allows a careful inspection before harvesting.


Frankenhooker has some of the same plot elements, except it's actually pretty good.

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Joe Vitus
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marantzo wrote:
It's not fair to include Ed wood's productions. They are in a class by themselves.


I agree.

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Here's an strange story: A Kiss Before Dying starred Robert Wagner, Jeffrey Hunter, Virginia Leith, and Joanne Woodward. Wagner, Hunter, and certainly Woodward became Hollywood legends of one sort or another. Leith wound up as Jan in the Pan in The Brain That Wouldn't Die.
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Nowhere Boy depicts John Lennon's teenage years which were full of heartaches. Enjoyable movie. Kristin Scott Thomas is very good.


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billyweeds wrote:
Here's an strange story: A Kiss Before Dying starred Robert Wagner, Jeffrey Hunter, Virginia Leith, and Joanne Woodward. Wagner, Hunter, and certainly Woodward became Hollywood legends of one sort or another. Leith wound up as Jan in the Pan in The Brain That Wouldn't Die.


The Hollywood life can make you lose your head.

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IIRC, Frankenhooker is one of Bill Murray's favorite films. If that doesn't make you want to rent it, I don't know what to tell you.

The original VHS release had a button on the box so that if you pushed on the lampost in the picture, it would say "Want a date?"
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Syd
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Samurai I: Musashi Miyamoto was the winner of the 1955 Academy Award for Best Foreign Film, when it was known simply as Samurai. The other two volumes of this trilogy are Samurai II: Duel at Ichijoji Temple and Samurai III: Duel at Ganryu Island, and tell the story of the great 17th century samurai Musashi Miyamoto* (Toshiro Mifune), whom I'd never heard of. In Samurai I, he is a young samurai named Takezo who goes off for war and glory with his young friend Matahachi to find fame and fortune in the feudal times and are promptly on the losing side of the battle of Sekigahara, the decisive battle of the rise of the Tokugawa Shogunate. They take refuge with a widow and her daughter, both of whom try to seduce Takezo, who runs off. The widow claims Takezo tries to seduce him and the two women take off with Matahachi. Takezo returns to find the place deserted so he goes home to tell Matahachi's fiancee, Otsu, that Matahachi is alive. This requires fighting his way through Tokugawa roadblocks, which makes him a fugitive.

After meeting with Otsu and Matahachi's mother, Osugi, he is betrayed by Osugi who thinks he betrayed Matahachi, so he takes to the hills, eluding capture from pretty much the entire town, which makes a local priest think Takezo has possibilities. And since this is the first volume of the trilogy, Takezo does.

I'm a little surprised this won the special Oscar.** It only tells a part of the story, and for me, at least, doesn't start taking off until Takezo returns to his home town and the hunt begins. Interestingly, as Takezo becomes more animalistic, he also becomes more human and starts to admit feelings of love. There's what amounts to shock therapy in the priest's methods of taming this animal.

This seemed like a precursor to the great samurai films of Kurosawa and Kobayashi (although Kurosawa had already done Rashomon at this point) and it hasn't aged as well. I kept feeling bits were edited out, since there are plot strands that seem unresolved. Maybe they're resolved in in parts II and III, which I understand are better.

*Author of the martial arts classic"The Book of Five Rings," written in 1645, 45 years after Sekigahara. Knowing that takes some of the suspense out of the series.
**Competitive Oscars didn't come in this category until 1956.

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