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| billyweeds |
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| Watched Hitchcock's Notorious for the first time in ages. What a picture. It really belongs in the top rank of Hitchcock movies, with splendid performances by all, particularly Ingrid Bergman. Hitchcock never did a better job of directing actors, and the suspense is terrific. It's also as romantic as can be. Takes its place as one of my favorite AH movies. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:41 pm |
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| Claude Rains is good, too. The final scene is one of my favorites in all Hitchcock. What is the poor villain to do? |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:04 am |
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Syd wrote: Claude Rains is good, too. The final scene is one of my favorites in all Hitchcock. What is the poor villain to do?
Rains is amazing, and what a choice, to end the movie on the villain rather than the lovers. The movie is groundbreaking in many ways, not least of which is its very sophisticated, uneuphemistic way of describing the nature of Bergman's patriotic activities. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:51 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Watched Hitchcock's Notorious for the first time in ages. What a picture. It really belongs in the top rank of Hitchcock movies, with splendid performances by all, particularly Ingrid Bergman. Hitchcock never did a better job of directing actors, and the suspense is terrific. It's also as romantic as can be. Takes its place as one of my favorite AH movies.
But it isn't art.
Actually, I haven't seen this movie. Just feel I have a rep to maintain. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:47 pm |
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Get Shorty is better than the Elmore Leonard book of that title, because Danny DeVito reinvents one of its characters; and he's a hoot, at least until I tired of him.
The movie is also sparked by the inimitable Delroy Lindo: "I've seen better film on teeth." |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:38 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: billyweeds wrote: Watched Hitchcock's Notorious for the first time in ages. What a picture. It really belongs in the top rank of Hitchcock movies, with splendid performances by all, particularly Ingrid Bergman. Hitchcock never did a better job of directing actors, and the suspense is terrific. It's also as romantic as can be. Takes its place as one of my favorite AH movies.
But it isn't art.
Actually, I haven't seen this movie. Just feel I have a rep to maintain.
Just bought Notorious. And...
(hide your eyes, Gary)
Bridesmaids. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:59 pm |
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yambu wrote: Get Shorty is better than the Elmore Leonard book of that title, because Danny DeVito reinvents one of its characters; and he's a hoot, at least until I tired of him.
The movie is also sparked by the inimitable Delroy Lindo: "I've seen better film on teeth."
Couldn't agree more. One of several worthy films about the making of a film. I need to see it again. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:39 pm |
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trying to pick a Tgiving film...
This, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072000/
or "Viridiana" ? (the whole banquet theme seems suitable)
It's a conundrum. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:07 pm |
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"The movie is also sparked by the inimitable Delroy Lindo: "I've seen better film on teeth."
I like Delroy Lindo in anything and I liked Get Shorty. It was better than the book. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:46 pm |
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marantzo wrote: "The movie is also sparked by the inimitable Delroy Lindo: "I've seen better film on teeth."
I like Delroy Lindo in anything and I liked Get Shorty. It was better than the book.
It also features one of the only really first-rate performances by Travolta. |
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| grace |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:21 pm |
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I remember that turkey! It was an ABC Tuesday Night Movie. Watching it some years later, it seemed to have a creepy bondage undertone or something. Not that bondage is necessarily creepy.... |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:34 am |
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The British movie Sumarine is the story of two quirky 15 year old lovers and their problems with their parents, school and with each other. Watchable, funny. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:44 am |
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Speaking of Hitchcock, Billy, I re-watched Family Plot, which is such an odd entry. It's kinda clumsy, and looks more like a 70's made for t.v. movie than anything else, and the material and characterizations are really, really outdated for its time.
But it's fun. It's possibly the best role Barbara Harris ever got on screen (yes, she's amazing in Nashville, but that's not her movie despite her crucial role). Bruce Dern is an odd leading man, but a good choice for her love interest. I'm not sure why Katherine Helmond is made into an old lady (he husband isn't an old man), but the image of her kicking the gravestone is one of the two or three most vivid images a movie has ever given me. The movie is generally so well cast that it's a shame Hitchcock gave to of the largest roles to William Devane, who's almost always terrible and continues to be here, and Karen Black, who is often really good but is excecrably bad here.
I still love the ending. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:14 am |
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Joe--Agreed in almost every particular. Family Plot has zilch visual style (your comparison with 70s TV is extremely apt), but as black comedies go, it's perhaps the most successful one Hitch ever made--far better, for instance, than the visually stunning but fatally twee The Trouble with Harry.
It's also one of the most successful post-Psycho Hitchcocks, on a par with The Birds and Frenzy (neither of which I like), better than the wildly uneven Marnie, and in a different galaxy from the career bottoms Topaz and Torn Curtain.
And I've more than once said that I think the chemistry--both comic and sexual--between Harris and Dern is amazing. (Reportedly they didn't hit it off off screen, but that often makes for more interesting on-screen fireworks.)
I'm not as down on Devane and Black as you are, but they don't have a chance next to Dern and Harris.
Nice cameo by the great Cathleen Nesbitt as old Mrs. Rainbird.
And, yes, the ending is great--surprising, ineffably charming, and satisfying. I quite adore this film. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:54 am |
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| Since I like The Birds more than you do, I should probably check out Frenzy. Out of curiosity, do you think your antipathy for The Birds relates to it coming out at a time when intellectual/artistic appreciation for Hitchcock was at its height, and it was heavily publicized in relation to this? Because it certainly doesn't belong in the Rear Window/Vertigo/Psycho pantheon, but it has got a lot of fun stuff in it. Do you think if it had just been treated by the press as an escapist film (as his movies used to be) you'd likely think of it more fondly? |
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