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| gromit |
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No, I don't relate to Scorsese's films or style.
His films are mostly uninteresting to me.
Does this put me in the gay male camp?
As for more recent films, The Aviator was a snooze, while The Departed was terrible. Much prefer the original Cape Fear to MS's silliness. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:42 am |
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gromit wrote: No, I don't relate to Scorsese's films or style.
His films are mostly uninteresting to me.
Does this put me in the gay male camp?
As for more recent films, The Aviator was a snooze, while The Departed was terrible. Much prefer the original Cape Fear to MS's silliness. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:48 am |
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| I certainly agree that MS's Cape Fear was terrible, but not the others you bash. Robert Mitchum was brilliant in the original. De Niro in the remake gave one of his few bad performances in a non-comedy. (There have been several in the comic realm.) |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:49 pm |
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“Anonymous,” a costume spectacle directed by Roland Emmerich, from a script by John Orloff, is a vulgar prank on the English literary tradition, a travesty of British history and a brutal insult to the human imagination. Apart from that, it’s not bad.
This is a Roland Emmerich film. (At least I assume it is, though I guess, in the spirit of the enterprise, I should be open to other possibilities. Joe Swanberg? Brett Ratner? Zhang Yimou? It all seems eerily plausible, once you start to think about it.)
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:56 pm |
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| There was a piece on the Times opinion page that blasted "Anonymous," and it attracted several letters-to-the-editor, among them one from Emmerich, defending the film's basis. (One letter said it didn't matter who wrote the plays; another said that there's evidence that several people collaborated on some of them. Interesting, but none of them made me want to see the film.) |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:16 pm |
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Ghulam wrote: .
For ever Scott:
“Anonymous,” a costume spectacle directed by Roland Emmerich, from a script by John Orloff, is a vulgar prank on the English literary tradition, a travesty of British history and a brutal insult to the human imagination. Apart from that, it’s not bad.
This is a Roland Emmerich film. (At least I assume it is, though I guess, in the spirit of the enterprise, I should be open to other possibilities. Joe Swanberg? Brett Ratner? Zhang Yimou? It all seems eerily plausible, once you start to think about it.)
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Or rather, manning the barricades against its premise, since a film has no obligation towards historical reality, be the director Emmerich, Tarantino, or John Madden. My problem is, like JFK, the film makers believe that their altered reality is the "truth" while defending the reportedly jaw dropping inaccuracies as "just a movie." |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:24 pm |
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Ghulam wrote: .
For ever Scott:
“Anonymous,” a costume spectacle directed by Roland Emmerich, from a script by John Orloff, is a vulgar prank on the English literary tradition, a travesty of British history and a brutal insult to the human imagination. Apart from that, it’s not bad.
This is a Roland Emmerich film. (At least I assume it is, though I guess, in the spirit of the enterprise, I should be open to other possibilities. Joe Swanberg? Brett Ratner? Zhang Yimou? It all seems eerily plausible, once you start to think about it.)
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What publication is this from? |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:35 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Ghulam wrote: .
For ever Scott:
“Anonymous,” a costume spectacle directed by Roland Emmerich, from a script by John Orloff, is a vulgar prank on the English literary tradition, a travesty of British history and a brutal insult to the human imagination. Apart from that, it’s not bad.
This is a Roland Emmerich film. (At least I assume it is, though I guess, in the spirit of the enterprise, I should be open to other possibilities. Joe Swanberg? Brett Ratner? Zhang Yimou? It all seems eerily plausible, once you start to think about it.)
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What publication is this from?
http://movies.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/movies/anonymous-by-roland-emmerich-review.html?ref=movies |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:53 pm |
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Anyway, reading an article about, as far as I am concerned, Carey Mulligan being cast in the next Coen Bros movie, I ran across this tidbit:
"she’s currently filming Baz Luhrmann’s 3D adaptation of The Great Gatsby in Australia...."
Why in the name of Zelda would you want to film Gatsby in 3d? What for? The light on the pier he cannot grasp? The eyeglasses? What the FUCK?
And while we're at it... Australia? Really? |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:59 pm |
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| I think if you noticed the name of the director, you have all the answer you need. It will surely be a gaudy, grotesque mess, but it might also be more interesting that the previous "restrained" adaptations. Really it's a novel that can't be translated to the screen. What happens isn't the point, despite it's almost clockwork plot. It's what Nick thinks about it all and the shimmering prose Fitzgerald provides him with. How do you just show Gatsby's green light and have it mean anything? |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:10 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I think if you noticed the name of the director, you have all the answer you need. It will surely be a gaudy, grotesque mess, but it might also be more interesting that the previous "restrained" adaptations. Really it's a novel that can't be translated to the screen. What happens isn't the point, despite it's almost clockwork plot. It's what Nick thinks about it all and the shimmering prose Fitzgerald provides him with. How do you just show Gatsby's green light and have it mean anything?
Gatsby will never be Gatsby on screen, true enough. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:18 pm |
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I haven't seen the movie but does The Grating Gatsby apply.
I think I've only seen one Baz Luhrmann movie, Moulin Rouge. Didn't like it at all. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:33 pm |
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marantzo wrote: I haven't seen the movie but does The Grating Gatsby apply.
I think I've only seen one Baz Luhrmann movie, Moulin Rouge. Didn't like it at all.
I liked Moulin Rouge! quite a bit but the film of his I liked the best was Strictly Ballroom.
My guess is the 3-D is to emphasize their opulent lifestyle. |
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| grace |
| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:09 pm |
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My childhood school bus stop was across the street from a cottage that F. Scott and Zelda rented for a year or two. In 1996, Barbara Probst Solomon theorized in The New Yorker that Fitzgerald's time in Westport influenced The Great Gatsby, and that East and West Egg might have actually been based on geography or topgraphy situated on the Connecticut, rather than the New York, side of Long Island Sound.
Deej Webb, a kid with whom I went to school (and rode the bus) carried on this theory in a presentation to the Westport Historical Society and anyone else who will listen. (Parts of my childhood 'hood were definitely featured in The Beautiful and the Damned, but as for Gatsby I remain interested but skeptical.)
That being said, the 1974 TGG was pretty awful; and having watched Australia in its entirety, I'm not confident that Luhrmann's version will be any better. Perhaps The Great Gatsby is meant to be a book and just not meant to be a movie. I dunno. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:45 am |
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Rampart features an uncompromising performance by Woody Harrelson as a 100 percent son of a bitch, and an overqualified multi-star cast, but not much in the way of entertainment or bang for the buck. It's a technically well made, thoroughly unpleasant wallow in the life of a corrupt policeman who possesses absolutely not one saving grace. If this means a fulfilling experience for you, then by all means indulge.
Harrelson has solid chops as an actor and he makes the character vivid (meaning completely unlikeable). Cynthia Nixon, Sigourney Weaver, Steve Buscemi, and others are wasted in cameo roles, though Audra McDonald, Ben Foster, and particularly Robin Wright do get a chance to shine. Oren Moverman directed Foster and Harrelson in the superior The Messenger, and clearly the three guys (Foster co-produced Rampart) thought it was high time Harrelson took home an Oscar. This is their calling card and it ain't gonna work. |
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