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Marj
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:34 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
I was thinking about The Conspirator today. It's a very good movie all around. I think (spoiler), she was guilty as hell but her enabling didn't deserve a hanging. Though being the assassination of the President probably made it a capital crime even though the evidence was what one would call, not without a reasonable doubt.


Gary, did you mean, with or without?
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bartist
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Finally saw Last Chance Harvey and loved it. Two of the finest actors in the world, Emma Thompson and Dustin Hoffman, who absolutely owned their characters and charmed the daylights out of me. I think Billy, or Joe, or perhaps even someone named "Billy Jo" recommended this, and I thank whoever gave the nudge. What a sweet romantic tale, and compelling statement on how more things are possible than we sometimes realize.

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marantzo
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Marj, I did have trouble with those negatives, but I think evidence with a reasonable doubt says what I was driving at. Thanks for the question. I guess it would have been better for me to say, there was definitely a reasonable doubt concerning her guilt.
carrobin
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:48 am Reply with quote
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bartist wrote:
Finally saw Last Chance Harvey and loved it. Two of the finest actors in the world, Emma Thompson and Dustin Hoffman, who absolutely owned their characters and charmed the daylights out of me. I think Billy, or Joe, or perhaps even someone named "Billy Jo" recommended this, and I thank whoever gave the nudge. What a sweet romantic tale, and compelling statement on how more things are possible than we sometimes realize.


I saw it on a plane returning from London a couple of years ago, and wished I'd seen it on the way over. It's one of those little movies that stick with you longer than most big movies do.
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yambu
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I may have already said this, but Last Chance Harvey stretches the bounds of Romance, because the emotions displayed by Hoffman snd Thompson were life-real. A wonderful, satisfying film in every way.
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:29 am Reply with quote
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carrobin wrote:
bartist wrote:
Finally saw Last Chance Harvey and loved it. Two of the finest actors in the world, Emma Thompson and Dustin Hoffman, who absolutely owned their characters and charmed the daylights out of me. I think Billy, or Joe, or perhaps even someone named "Billy Jo" recommended this, and I thank whoever gave the nudge. What a sweet romantic tale, and compelling statement on how more things are possible than we sometimes realize.


I saw it on a plane returning from London a couple of years ago, and wished I'd seen it on the way over. It's one of those little movies that stick with you longer than most big movies do.


I'm sure there's a fine and convincing explanation for this, but I need to know why seeing it on the way to London would have been better. What is there about Last Chance Harvey that would have enhanced London? Emma Thompson's accent, maybe? What?
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carrobin
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billyweeds wrote:
I'm sure there's a fine and convincing explanation for this, but I need to know why seeing it on the way to London would have been better. What is there about Last Chance Harvey that would have enhanced London? Emma Thompson's accent, maybe? What?


I think it was basically because they were crossing the Millennium Bridge, which I'd wanted to see but had forgotten about in the rush to do all the other things I was pursuing while I was there.
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Does Hoffman actually say "I'm going to dance your socks off" in it? Because the fear of hearing that is the reason I've never seen it.

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grace
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Per IMDB, it's "gonna" - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1046947/quotes. But IIRC, the line comes about in a certain context; and while it is still perhaps some degree of excruciating or cringeworthy, it's not like it's a completely gratuitous "Hey baby, I'm gonna to dance your socks off - yeeehaaawww" or anything like that.
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bartist
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What Grace said -- the line fits the context and the moment and isn't at all grating. The film does make you want to see the London that they are seeing. Their first chat in the airport lounge is quite amusing.

Hoffman wrote the little jazz piece he plays in the film. Another actor who wanted to be something else and just stumbled into acting. Nice stumble.

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billyweeds
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Another actor who wanted to be something else and just stumbled into acting. Nice stumble.


Still my favorite movie star actor of his generation.
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A towering figure.

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Marc
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I cannot stand Dustin Hoffman. The mere thought of the man makes me cough up small amounts of bile. He acts with his nose.
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jeremy
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I am enjoying Dustin Hoffman more in this latest, sctreen doyen, stage of his career. His acting has become less urgent. it is all the better for not trying to impress us, or even act, in every scene.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:54 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
I cannot stand Dustin Hoffman. The mere thought of the man makes me cough up small amounts of bile. He acts with his nose.


You have never--repeat, never--been more wrong in your life, at least on this forum. Hoffman has given more great performances than any other movie star I can recall.

Tootsie
Rain Man
Midnight Cowboy
The Graduate
Last Chance Harvey
Marathon Man
All the President's Men
Kramer vs. Kramer
Barney's Version


As for the other "great" actors of his own generation, I'll take Hoffman over Pacino or De Niro any day of the week. You may not love Hoffman as much as I do, but to sum his talent up with "He acts with his nose" is just. Plain. Ridiculous.
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