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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:58 pm Reply with quote
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I agree with the "dark comedy" designation.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:16 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
OK Billy:

I saw Modern Romance last week. Did like it. Brooks' character was such a fucked up, hyper screw-up, neurotic that it was impossible to sympathize with his predicament. ...I think Defending Your Life was a better movie. I think it depends on different tastes, who would like one better than the other. Close call.


Defending Your Life is a wonderful movie but ranks third or fourth in my own Brooks pantheon, after MR and Lost in America, which is brilliant.

Yes, Brooks's character in MR is totally fucked up, and how remarkable is it that Brooks refuses to sweeten his own case.

My other favorite Brooks film is Mother, with Brooks as the son and Debbie Reynolds in an award-worthy turn as his mom. It's another near-great movie which should be seen. Hilarious, touching, and even inspiring.

With the performances of Reynolds in Mother, Kathryn Harrold in Modern Romance, Meryl Streep in Defending Your Life, and Julie Hagerty in Lost in America, I would call Brooks one of the best directors of women working in film.

However, The Muse and Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World should--must--be avoided.


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bartist
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:47 am Reply with quote
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Movies I see so that you don't have to: "Insidious"

This follows a storyline fairly similar to Poltergeist, but with an astral plane that seems to have been swiped from Argento. The only rays of light are two small supporting roles by the psychic's assistants, who inflate their own importance and bicker with each other. Patrick Wilson is Craig T. Nelson, Rose Byrne is JoBeth Williams. Add lots of dark interiors, tilty-cam, dry ice... rinse, lather, repeat.

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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:26 am Reply with quote
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Of the Brooks films I've seen, I think Lost in America is his best. And I didn't write much about MR, which I should have. Brooks really doesn't sugarcoat his character, as Billy mentioned.

The scene where they are trying to edit loud footstep into the movie they are working on even though they are walking on carpet is wonderful in a loony way. It reminded me of one of Bogie's pictures (I think) when there was a car chase on a snow covered road on a mountainside and the cars were screeching around turns. Ridiculous. Living in a city familiar with snowy streets I can assure you that cars don't screech on snow, in fact there is no noise whatsoever.
marantzo
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:30 am Reply with quote
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bartist wrote:
Movies I see so that you don't have to: "Insidious"

This follows a storyline fairly similar to Poltergeist, but with an astral plane that seems to have been swiped from Argento. The only rays of light are two small supporting roles by the psychic's assistants, who inflate their own importance and bicker with each other. Patrick Wilson is Craig T. Nelson, Rose Byrne is JoBeth Williams. Add lots of dark interiors, tilty-cam, dry ice... rinse, lather, repeat.


I checked out Insidious a couple of weeks ago when I was deciding what to see. I actually wrote about my tiny search. Definitely not for me. Ended up seeing Limitless. Easy choice and a very good choice.
billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:08 am Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
Of the Brooks films I've seen, I think Lost in America is his best. And I didn't write much about MR, which I should have. Brooks really doesn't sugarcoat his character, as Billy mentioned.

The scene where they are trying to edit loud footstep into the movie they are working on even though they are walking on carpet is wonderful in a loony way. It reminded me of one of Bogie's pictures (I think) when there was a car chase on a snow covered road on a mountainside and the cars were screeching around turns. Ridiculous. Living in a city familiar with snowy streets I can assure you that cars don't screech on snow, in fact there is no noise whatsoever.


I think MR is probably one of the only movies where the leading character is a professional film editor and the only movie with a Foley scene.

The late Bruno Kirby is also very good as Brooks's long-suffering colleague.


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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:08 am Reply with quote
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Watched The Long Goodbye the other day. Very engaging movie. Just about everyone involved is a sleazebag except Marlowe who is a decent person and tends to roll with the punches. As the movie goes on it gets more and more convoluted and had me thinking two related things; 'Chandler writes complicated mysteries' and 'Oh, oh another The Big Sleep and I'm not going to really know what the hell was the conclusion.' I'm happy to say that it does all get wrapped up nicely and I loved the ending.

Robert Altman did a great job putting this thing together. I haven't read the book, but having seen TBS and this one, I'm sure it is true to the original.
billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:23 am Reply with quote
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I loved the ending too, and the baddie was unexpected and interesting in several ways. Don't want to have to resort to spoiler alerts, so enough said.
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grace
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:38 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:

I think MR is probably one of the only movies where the leading character is a professional film editor and the only movie with a Foley scene.


Didn't the DePalma remake of Blowout have Foley scenes? I could be mistaken, maybe it was just sound, not sound effects. But for sure, the Beverly Hills Cop movies all had several (Axl) Foley scenes. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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whiskeypriest
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:32 am Reply with quote
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grace wrote:
But for sure, the Beverly Hills Cop movies all had several (Axl) Foley scenes.
Say goodnight, gracie.

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gromit
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Guy and Madeline on a Park Bench (2009) is kind of a b&w verite relationship film ... with a few musical numbers thrown in. An intentional odd combination. Hmm, musicals aren't really my thing. And the film seemed a bit too short. It's intentionally a little choppy, showing different parts of a failed relationship and the other options which follow.

The non-actor leads half worked and half didn't, for me. Though at least casting a trumpet player as Guy makes for realistic and real music scenes. Wish I could say as much for the tap dancing.

Here's the website with a trailer and probably other info.
http://www.guyandmadeline.com/
It should make for a nice rental. Anyone from Boston might like that aspect. And it's nice to see a film treat jazz as something alive and relevant.

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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:34 pm Reply with quote
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Ah, couch with a view.

I just saw one of my all time favourites that I had first seen at the Beacon Theatre here, with my older brother and one of his friends. I would have been around 8 years old. The movie was the '39 version of The Four Feathers and the bottom half of the double bill was A Slight Case of Murder from '38 with Edward G. Robinson and a very funny movie. A hell of a double bill which is why I remember it so vividly.

Watching TFF this time, I really liked how the build up moved along with short cuts to advancing scenes, though by the ending scenes, it could have taken a little more time with the return home.

Shot in colour in 1939, probably '38, it is visually in a league with Gone With the Wind. David Lean must have got a lot from TFF when shooting Lawrence of Arabia.

Viewing on the big screen is preferable. Fat chance finding a theatre showing it.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:40 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
Of the Brooks films I've seen, I think Lost in America is his best.

Me, too.

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SPOILERS FOR THE LONG ADIOS:

Gary, glad you caught up with TLG -- what did you make of the sudden nature of the end...BANG and then he walks off down that boulevard to "Hooray for Hollywood" and does a little dance with some random Mexican lady as he passes. This was the ending Altman was so insistent on that he wrote it into his contract, i.e. that the studio couldn't ask for alternate endings. I just love it, the sardonic logic of "hey, you want to play dead? let me help...." but I've always found it makes me sort of sad, too, the way he just dances away like it's nothing. Seems very true to Chandler, in an offbeat sort of way.

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I checked out Insidious a couple of weeks ago when I was deciding what to see. I actually wrote about my tiny search. Definitely not for me. Ended up seeing Limitless. Easy choice and a very good choice.


Easy indeed. Limitless is next on my list, based on your earlier review. It's a sign of how little good horror there is that I satisfy my cravings with stuff like Insidious.

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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:47 pm Reply with quote
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SPOILER THE LONG GOODBYE:

Bart, how come you didn't mention Eileen driving to see Terry and Marlowe walking down the road as she passes going the other way? Everything worked out fine. Of course Terry was already dead when Marlowe shot him so he had nothing to be bothered with. Laughing


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