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| marantzo |
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Just finished watching The Wind Journeys, a Colombian picture that Gromit reviewed months ago. Or was it a year ago? A long existential journey through a Colombian landscape that is quite spectacular. Not in my neck of the woods there and the terrain, except for the mountains is different. It is Aboriginal territory in the northeast beside the Atlantic and near Venezuela. The journey, unless I'm mistaken goes south encountering a number of different native tribes or clans etc. Beautiful picture with a steady slow, an sort of mysterious pace. A grade A film with acting so real it could have been a documentary.
Despite the pace, I wasn't bored for a minute. Some may be? I don't know.
Thanks Gromit for bringing this up. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:44 am |
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gromit wrote: Someday it might be possible to look this all up online.
Fuller didn't direct I, The Jury.
Fuller's best known noirs are Pickup on South Street and House of Bamboo (which I've never seen).
You wouldn't call The Naked Kiss a noir? I guess it isn't, come to think of it, but that's how I always thought of it. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:15 am |
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| "Noir" has become a misused term. For instance, D.O.A., which is often termed a noir, is not a noir in the classic sense. There is no femme fatale, no seriously flawed hero, etc. The ultimate noir is Out of the Past, and by that standard The Naked Kiss is not a noir. But it and Fuller's Shock Corridor could both be called noirs in the more vague sense. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:56 am |
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| Well, to be fair, there are no rules to noir, as the term is an after-the-fact invention. Whether plot motifs, emotional tone, or even pictorial composition distinguishes a work as noir is up for grabs. But I have to agree, on second thought, that I wouldn't call The Naked Kiss a noir, for all it's hardboiled and "dangerous sex" qualities. However, I'd argue D.O.A. is a noir. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:15 am |
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some use noir very broadly (as in, a broad is not required) -- i.e. anything where the protag is an outsider, in some sense, and there are double-crosses. I like the way the word gets paired with regional modifiers, like "tumbleweed noir" (John Dahl). And, of course, there is "carpet noir," where you have a beautiful carpet that tied the whole room together.
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:04 am |
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| I thought "carpet noir" was the kind that involved a broad. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:08 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I thought "carpet noir" was the kind that involved a broad.
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:11 am |
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| Guess I don't have to tell you what I expected This Gun For Hire to be about. Needless to say, I was disappointed. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:15 am |
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That would be Broadloom Noir.
I am referring to the carpet noir post that Joe commented on. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:33 am |
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lol
Some critic called Chinatown "film blanche" -- the role of that brilliant S. Calif. light being so prominent, the darkness beneath the sunny settings. Sunlight glinting off that pair of broken spectacles in the koi pond. |
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| billyweeds |
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| Noir in color is an amazing sub-genre. If you've ever seen Arthur Penn's Night Moves starring Gene Hackman you have seen a great example. Along, of course, with Chinatown, but I like Night Moves even better. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:33 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Noir in color is an amazing sub-genre. If you've ever seen Arthur Penn's Night Moves starring Gene Hackman you have seen a great example. Along, of course, with Chinatown, but I like Night Moves even better. |
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| Syd |
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| I've always thought of The Naked Kiss as a noir since it has the feel of one and many of the characteristics. It just happens to have a homme fatale and female lead, rather than the reverse. Maybe that makes it a film blanc? |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:36 am |
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whiskeypriest wrote: billyweeds wrote: Noir in color is an amazing sub-genre. If you've ever seen Arthur Penn's Night Moves starring Gene Hackman you have seen a great example. Along, of course, with Chinatown, but I like Night Moves even better. L. A. Confidential also.
Yep. And, in a weird way, Body Double. |
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| grace |
| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:46 am |
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| Brick as teen noir? And in color. |
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