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| billyweeds |
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| Couldn't really get into Corner Gas. It was a little too precious for me. Can't quite explain this, except that they were too pleased with their own sense of humor. For me, it's a bit too clever. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:06 pm |
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| You and I definitely have a different sense of humour. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:28 pm |
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| Halfway through The Innocents. Deborah Kerr is looking very worried about something. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:45 pm |
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marantzo wrote: You and I definitely have a different sense of humour.
Hey! We both liked Midnight in Paris. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:45 pm |
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Syd wrote: Halfway through The Innocents. Deborah Kerr is looking very worried about something.
LOL. Love that movie. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:21 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Corner Gas was terrific. I watch the reruns often. There are two spin-off running now and they are different programmes but with a lot of the same actors and both very good. Dan For Mayor (Hank)and Hiccups (Brent and Wanda). Brent married Wanda, by the way.
Would love to see these shows. Why is the first called Dan For Mayor if it stars Hank? |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:33 pm |
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| The Innocents (the film version of The Turn of the Screw) was quite good and creepy. It's Henry James' story, via Philip Archibald's play, with Truman Capote adapting it to the screen. I've never read the story (although I'd heard of it), so it had a pretty good impact. It's probably a good thing I didn't watch it in the dark. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:46 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Couldn't really get into Corner Gas. It was a little too precious for me. Can't quite explain this, except that they were too pleased with their own sense of humor. For me, it's a bit too clever.
I agree about the precious element (but not too much so, for me). I don't get the "too pleased" comment, though. A show can never be too clever for me. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:51 pm |
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Syd wrote: The Innocents (the film version of The Turn of the Screw) was quite good and creepy. It's Henry James' story, via Philip Archibald's play, with Truman Capote adapting it to the screen. I've never read the story (although I'd heard of it), so it had a pretty good impact. It's probably a good thing I didn't watch it in the dark.
Honestly disagree. By the way, all Capote contributed was literally typing the James novella in screenplay form. To my knowledge his work wasn't used.
I think the movie relies waaay too heavily on the Freudian interpretation of the work Edmund Wilson popularized. And Deborah Kerr is mannered as always. I used to love her, until I realized she never gives a naturalistic line reading. She always sounds like she's reciting a script. It's less noticeable in period pieces, but it's always true. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:56 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: marantzo wrote: Corner Gas was terrific. I watch the reruns often. There are two spin-off running now and they are different programmes but with a lot of the same actors and both very good. Dan For Mayor (Hank)and Hiccups (Brent and Wanda). Brent married Wanda, by the way.
Would love to see these shows. Why is the first called Dan For Mayor if it stars Hank?
The story lines are different and Hank plays Dan who runs for mayor of a fictional town. In Hiccups Brent and Wanda play different characters also. Wanda is a crazy children's book writer and Brent is her agent.
I haven't seen The Innocents for a long time but when I saw it I liked it a lot. Creepy. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:02 am |
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By the way, Brent Butt decided to end Corner Gas. He thought it had run it's course. You might know this but Brent grew up in Tisdale Saskatchewan, a farm town, so he knows Saskatchewan.
What do you know, Corner Gas is on my TV now. Now that's weird. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:44 am |
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I remember seeing The Innocents a couple decades ago and not getting into the whole Freudian slant. Have to see it again and see how it holds up now. If you can get some creepy out of it, I'm a little envious -- it's been a while since anything with ghostly themes has truly given me a chill. I though the BBC version of TOTS was pretty dull.
Glad you reviewed it. The local PL has a copy and now I'll remember to look for it. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:35 am |
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| The Freudian interpretation has a few problems anyway. For instance Miss Giddens sees Miss Jessel's ghost wandering the halls in a black dress, which is how Jessel dressed while she was in mourning. At this point, as near as I can tell, Miss Giddens has not had any description at all of Miss Jessel other than Jessel was pretty (but not half as pretty as Miss Giddens). Thus if Giddens is imagining Jessel she's also imagining her appearance. But how does she know how Jessel would be dressed when she doesn't find out the story of Jessel and Quint until much later? I also think she sees Quint before she could possibly know what he looked like, but I could be mistaken on that. It depends whether she saw the cameo before or after she saw Quint on the tower. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:33 pm |
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The interpretation has even more problems if you consider James' prologue, where the man who relates it, and was another youth in the heroine's charge later on, speaks well of her character. Thus making the idea that she's a frustrated virgin who grafts her psychological problems onto the children in her care even less likely.
I've never liked the theory that the ghosts aren't real. It seems to come from some kind of skewed logic that goes "James was too intelligent and perceptive a writer, too mature, to believe in ghosts. Therefore he wouldn't waste his time with mere ghost stories. Therefore the work must really be about something else." There are so many holes in that theory, you could spend a semester in grad school dismantling them. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:56 am |
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The Peruvian movie The Milk of Sorrow about the long term consequences of rape trauma in poor women inflicted by soldiers during war was nominated for an Oscar and won some 11 international awards. The movie was panned by reviewers in the US. It is mildly interesting.
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