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Marj
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:18 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
On the subject, here's a quite reliable source for free TV (it was just closed by the Nation Security Agency or some such thing, by taking away there domain name or something. They signed up with a domain that is not in the USA.

http://89.248.174.98/

Check it out.


With the exception of the porn ladies - watch out. Here come Jeremy and Bart, it looks pretty cool, Gary.
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Syd
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:39 pm Reply with quote
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Broken Embraces. Pedro Almodóvar is doing a bit of mystery here with a blind writer telling the story of the last film he made when he was a director, and had an affair with an actress/mistress played by Penelope Cruz. I loved the vampire script he works on with his assistant/apprentice. I liked the interplay between Lluís Homar (the writer), Blanco Portillo (his agent/assistant) and Tamar Novas (the assistant/apprentice) in the modern story as secrets are revealed. Not major Almodóvar, but I liked it quite a bit.

EDIT: Oh, and it looks great, including Cruz's breasts and those of a striking blonde in the opening scenes.


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Syd
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The blonde actress was Kira Miró. She's actually been in a fair amount of stuff, a lot of it on television, but most of her movie career is bit parts.

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Joe Vitus
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Watched Meet Me in St. Louis tonight. I think it's the first time in a few years I've watched it. And was I in tears from the moment Esther went up to Tootie's room until the end of the Christmas sequence? You know I was.

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jeremy
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:13 am Reply with quote
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I often cry watching films. Sometimes I welcome the tears; occassionally I rage against the manipulation; but I'm always thankful I'm sitting in the dark. Usually it's minor welling, but sometimes I have to wipe the tears away. My favourite technique is to brush my hand or upper arm across my face in much the same way one might if one was tired. I'm sure it fools everyone.

There's something about cartoons that gets under my defences. Jessie's abandonment in Toy Story II gets me every time. I mean there's a song and everything.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:26 am Reply with quote
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Jessie in Toy Story 2 was a classic tear-manufacturer. So was most of Toy Story 3.

The first time I can remember being engulfed in tears over a movie was the first time I saw Gone With the Wind (at about age 13). Since then I'm a sucker. Last week I spent a couple of hours (by myself, thank goodness) weeping over the Lincoln Center Live production of South Pacific. From Nellie's discovery of love to Cable's death--happy or sad, anything was an occasion for tears.
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whiskeypriest
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:27 am Reply with quote
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Not a big movie weeper, myself; my wife does that for both of us. She even cries at the Stations of the Cross - as if she didn't know what was coming! There are, however, a few instances that get me every time, though I am not sure why.

- Not the first time, or the first dozen or twenty times I saw it, but a few years ago I started crying at the airport scene in Casablanca, and now I cry every time.

- About the time the sound cuts out during the Washitah River massacre in Little Big Man, when Dustin Hoffman watches his wife, well, one of them, get cut down by Custer's troops.

- Any performance, on stage or film, of King Lear, when Lear enters howling with Cordelia's body up to the end. The most emotionally devastating few minutes in any art form I can think of.

I also cried the first time I saw the pebble scene in Schindler's List, which is one reason I dislike the pebble scene, and consider the movie slightly less than great: a deliberate emotional manipulation in a film that did not need any.

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marantzo
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:51 am Reply with quote
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"I also cried the first time I saw the pebble scene in Schindler's List, which is one reason I dislike the pebble scene, and consider the movie slightly less than great: a deliberate emotional manipulation in a film that did not need any."

In my opinion that is Spielberg's biggest flaw. He seems to do that in many films. Tacks on some unnecessary and many times just dreadful scene or scenes that take down the movie many pegs. That's why I don't think of him as having an artist's vision in any way but mainly a technician.
Syd
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I don't mind the pebble scene at all, but I don't like the equivalent scene at the end of Saving Private Ryan.

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marantzo
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:21 am Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
I don't mind the pebble scene at all, but I don't like the equivalent scene at the end of Saving Private Ryan.


Yes indeed. That should have ende up on the cutting room floor. I never saw Schindler's List, (I don't go to movies about the Holocaust), so I have no opinion of the "pebble scene".
whiskeypriest
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:48 am Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
I don't mind the pebble scene at all, but I don't like the equivalent scene at the end of Saving Private Ryan.
Or the beginning. The wrap around framing of SPR is awful.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:12 pm Reply with quote
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whiskeypriest wrote:
Syd wrote:
I don't mind the pebble scene at all, but I don't like the equivalent scene at the end of Saving Private Ryan.
Or the beginning. The wrap around framing of SPR is awful.


Agree completely about the cheesy beginning and ending of SPR and totally disagree about the so-called "pebble" scene in Schindler, which was perfect.
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Shane
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:28 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
"I also cried the first time I saw the pebble scene in Schindler's List, which is one reason I dislike the pebble scene, and consider the movie slightly less than great: a deliberate emotional manipulation in a film that did not need any."

In my opinion that is Spielberg's biggest flaw. He seems to do that in many films. Tacks on some unnecessary and many times just dreadful scene or scenes that take down the movie many pegs. That's why I don't think of him as having an artist's vision in any way but mainly a technician.


Gary I couldn't agree more, this is probably why I consider most of his films good but not memorable.

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carrobin
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:20 pm Reply with quote
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There was a Lassie movie on TCM a few weeks ago I'd never heard of--can't remember the title now, but it was basically a version of the Greyfriars Bobby story in which "Bobby" is a collie instead of a terrier, who stubbornly returns to sleep at his (her?) master's grave every night, and the laws of Edinburgh decree that there can be no masterless dog running around so he/she has to be put down. Despite its being more like a high school play than a real movie, with its cheesy "Scottish" backdrop and the melodramatic acting and the silly plot and the predictability, I cried anyway.

It's odd that I've never cried in an Alan Bates movie, with the exception of "In Celebration," and that was a matter of bursting into tears in relief and empathy at one climactic scene.
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bartist
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I tend to get misty and employ methods similar to Jeremy's wiping-away-fatigue method. It's often over something I don't expect to sneak under my emotional radar -- those singing iguanas in Bad Lieut.: Port of Call New Orleans really got to me. In the words of David Huddleston, as the Big Lebowski, "strong men do cry."

If it's an obvious tear-jerking situation like the end of Old Yeller, then I'm more prepared and can maintain composure.

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