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jeremy
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:15 pm Reply with quote
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I agree that the clumsily anthropormorphic, cutesy, pedestrian Cars is the weakest Pixar film and perhaps the only one I've not bothered to see twice. Dispiritingly, I understand that Cars 2 is now in production. The Toy Stories, Monsters Inc. and The Incredibles remain the pick of the bunch for me.

Pixar's next film after...sigh...Cars 2, is Brave; set in an ancient Scottish Kingdom and voiced by Reese Witherspoon, Emma Thomson, Julie Walters and Billy Connolly, amongst others, it initially piqued my interest, but this was blunted somewhat by the discovery that one of the characters was named Rally the alligator. I had hoped that Pixar would rise above Disney's wilful ignorance of all things foreign. Even worse, I discovered that this was Pixar's first princess story and that the director was not only a woman, but the same one who directed Cars (and the under-rated, but still so-so Prince Of Egypt). Sometimes don't you just want to shout, "No."


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I liked The Prince of Egypt. I like it better than The Ten Commandments which was pretty cheesy.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:49 am Reply with quote
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The Social Network held its lead position in its second weekend and registered the lowest drop in attendance in a second week of any #1 movie this year. Lookin' good. Secretariat did only okay, but okay is better than lousy.

Seeing TSN today.
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:14 pm Reply with quote
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Saw The Social Network and had a ball. It's not my favorite movie of all time, or maybe even the year so far, but it's thoroughly entertaining and as riveting as can be. Never boring for a nanosecond and delightfully acted by the three leads, Eisenberg, Garfield, and Timberlake. Sorkin's script is verbal to the max and very funny, and Fincher brings out his inner Howard Hawks in a totally unexpected way. It's a blast.
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lshap
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:53 pm Reply with quote
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Jeremy - Agree completely about Pixar in general, and about Monsters Inc. in particular being right up there with Toy Story. The only thing that puts it a notch below is its reliance on Billy Crystal's fantastic voicing. Without him, I'm not sure if the script would've sparkled as much. Imagine "Put that thing back where it came from!" with another voice. They're planning a sequel, by the way.

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lshap
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Billy - We're on the same Social Network page.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:09 am Reply with quote
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Seriously, nothing on David Fincher's resume--and I'm as big a fan of Zodiac as you can find--prepared me for the skill and ease with comedy and zippy dialogue that suffuses every frame of The Social Network. It's a dark comedy for sure, but a comedy it is, and that has been way out of Fincher's wheelhouse up until now.

(Yeah, yeah, yeah, Fight Club had some humor, but it wasn't a comedy--and I didn't like the movie.)
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lshap
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:28 am Reply with quote
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Fincher + Sorkin = a nice blend of dark chocolate and crack cocaine.

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marantzo
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:13 pm Reply with quote
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So I am going to end my boycott of Fincher. I guess he's suffered enough.
billyweeds
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:09 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
So I am going to end my boycott of Fincher. I guess he's suffered enough.


While you're at it, you oughta check out Zodiac too. It's really great, and I'm no fan of Fincher either--in fact, I'm almost as much a non-fan as you are. Se7en, Alien 3, Panic Room, The Game, Fight Club, Benjamin Button--don't like a one of them, and loathe two or three.
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jeremy
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:46 pm Reply with quote
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[quote="billyweeds"]
marantzo wrote:
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While you're at it, you oughta check out Zodiac too. It's really great, and I'm no fan of Fincher either--in fact, I'm almost as much a non-fan as you are. Se7en, Alien 3, Panic Room, The Game, Fight Club, Benjamin Button--don't like a one of them, and loathe two or three.


Se7en - expliotative, but eminently watchable. Shower after viewing.
Alien 3 - not as bad as painted. Interesting failure.
Panic Room - OK thriller thing (Fincher likes it taught and claustrophobic).
Fight Club - funny, dark, disturbing, homo-erotic, zeitgeistful, thoughtful, great cast at the top of their game - without doubt one of the best movies of the nineties.
Zodiac - premise suited Fincher's (maturing) style. Solid film.
The Game - has Fincher's finger prints all over it, but meh!
Benjamin Button - yawn!
Social Network - I haven't seen it yet.

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marantzo
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:35 pm Reply with quote
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Oh yeah, I did see another Fincher after that gawd awful Seven. Tuned into The Game when surfing the channels while relaxing on my bed in Medellin one afternoon. Came in around 20 minutes in. Looked half decent for about fifteen minutes then took a long dive into the idiotic, climaxing in a series of events that had me muttering, "Oh pleeeaase!!!! What crap." And then the credits. I saw the name of the film and looked it up on imdb. A Fincher vehicle. Of course. Now it all made sense.
lshap
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:12 pm Reply with quote
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I hate being the token naysayer, but I wasn't crazy about Zodiac. Yes, the whole thing started off with a roar and there were some really fine scenes and acting. But the stultifying obsession with this case in real life began to feel equally stultifying onscreen, as the story slowed to a crawl and then fell into a coma, from which it never completely recovered.

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Syd
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I have a weakness for The Game because I enjoy seeing Michael Douglas being tormented. It's a tremendously silly movie.

It's like one of the high points of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World is seeing Jason Schwartzman getting the crap beaten out of him.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:21 pm Reply with quote
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I saw Zodiac twice and never found it stultifying.

Cannot figure out what the Michael Douglas bashing is all about. He's a fine and considerably underrated actor who happens to have been born into Hollywood royalty and married a gorgeous woman. Does jealousy have anything to do with it? Because performances like Wonder Boys, Solitary Man, Wall Street, Romancing the Stone, Falling Down...these are not chopped chicken liver. So the guy has dabbled in some trashy movies. This is unique?

Explain, please.
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