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| Befade |
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:46 pm |
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Quote: I wouldn't bet the farm on The Social Network -- or any other fillum -- winning (as opposed to being nominated for) the Racso this early.
He who knows with his nose to the ground has spoken!!
Thank you, Inla.......and the exciting news about John Cameron Mitchell. |
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| lshap |
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:50 pm |
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inlareviewer wrote: I wouldn't bet the farm on The Social Network -- or any other fillum -- winning (as opposed to being nominated for) the Racso this early. AMPAS will surely do the 10 picture Best Pic approach again, with the studios and agencies now prepared to market and strategize within that expanded field in ways that they weren't last year. There are already big DVD release pushes planned for The Kids Are All Right and Inception and various other early-to-midyear-issue moom pitchahs, and there's a slate of hugely well-regarded pix from the festivals coming down the For Your Consideration pike this fall --- for instance, John Cameron Mitchell's adaptation of Rabbit Hole,, with La Belle Nicole, Aaron Eckhardt and Dianne Wiest, which Toronto-attending criticalities received with the sort of awed enthusisam usually reserved for sightings of Christ on a tortilla, and that's just one example. It ain't over 'til December 31, after which it's likely to be a battle royale to make last year's Avatar-versus- Hurt Locker faceoff seem pallid by comparison.
Speaking of promising stage-to-screen adaptations, colleague Nikki Finke has some interesting news for next year:
Julia Roberts And Meryl Streep To Team In 'August: Osage County'
Thanks Inla! I'm really psyched to see Christ on a Tortilla! |
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| jeremy |
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:19 pm |
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Inception shouldn't win anything outside of the technical categories. Cold and clever, for its own sake, it just wasn't very good. Though the concepts may have impressed the boys at FHM, for me, they had no intellectual resonance. Neither did I empathise with any of the characters, except, maybe, for the fat, bullet-proof Indian - I still haven't forgiven Ellen Page for being far too self-assured a smart-arse in Juno . She was a pregnant 16-year-old damnit. Why all the praise for Diablo Stupid Name Cody for projecting all her strippers sass onto a girl. Is that what qualifies for good writing these days.
As for the ending of Inception, it was worthy of M Night Charlatan. Who also has a stupid name. Directors shopuld have good soild names, like Tony Scott, Michael Winterbottom or Coen Bros.
Now that I am over 50, I am officielly allowed to vent off like Grandpa Simpson.
Getting back to the Oscars, I here Colin Firth's turn as George V in the period piece about him (George V that is) overcomming his stammer is garnering Best Actor buzz. Apparently, the film is not quite as dull as it sounds either. Billy's gonna love it. |
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| Syd |
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:46 pm |
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| That should be George VI, dad of Queen Elizabeth II. Which means we don't get to see Colin Firth in a beard. |
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| jeremy |
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:10 pm |
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Damn, I meant George VI. Bertie as he was known was thrust into the limelight following the abdication of Edward VIII. A sickly man with a stammer, he had to find the strength to be the king the nation needed in the difficult times before and during the Second World War. His wife, also Elizabeth (who became he 'queen mother') blamed Edward and Mrs Simpson for her husband's subsequent early death. Not a woman to be crossed, she pursued something of a vendetta against Edward and Mrs Simpson for the rest of her life. This narrative, which sees Edward as acting selfishly, runs counter to the one that prevails in America, where the story plays as king gives up throne for love (of an American).
The film's called King's Speech (see what they did there?). |
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| jeremy |
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:25 pm |
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One portrait and one portratyal of George VI; in neither is he sporting (or sprouting) facial hair. Slightly cynically, I wondered what a king had to do to get a chestful of medals. I looked it up, Apparently, he did serve in the Royal Navy during World War I.
Quote: Albert was commissioned as a midshipman on 15 September 1913 and one year later began service in World War I. His fellow officers gave him the nickname "Mr. Johnson".[8] He was mentioned in despatches for his action as a turret officer aboard HMS Collingwood during the Battle of Jutland (31 May – 1 June 1916), an indecisive action against the German navy which emerged as a strategic victory for the United Kingdom. He did not see further action in the war, largely because of ill health caused by a duodenal ulcer.[9] In February 1918, he was appointed Officer in Charge of Boys at the Royal Naval Air Service's training establishment at Cranwell
Those boys can be buggers (and no that is not an reference to homosexuality in British public (i.e. private) schools. In fairness, he saw lot more action (i.e. some) than a lot of baby boomers with rich parents. We tend to scoff these days, but duty and honour did matter. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:28 pm |
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From what I've read of Edward VIII, England was very lucky he wasn't king during World War II. The rest of the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha/Windsor rulers have been good rulers.
That's George VI again. George V (who is not being played by Colin Firth) looked like this:
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I've never seen a picture of him as an adult without a beard. I've never seen a picture of George VI with facial hair. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:43 pm |
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| He was also the last Emperor of India and the last King Of Ireland. Though he remained King of the British Dominions, like Canada, until his death. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:08 pm |
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| It's pretty common for younger sons of British monarchs to serve in the navy. The future George V also did so until his older brother died, and Prince Andrew served in the Falklands War. Edward doesn't seem to have had a military career, and Henry broke the trend by joining the Army. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:19 pm |
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| Edward, following in the family tradition, joind the Royal Marines. However, it transpired that he was not quite made of the stuff that Royal Marines are full off. And I mean stel resolve not gung ho bullshit. A somewhat sensitive soul (and that is not meant to be a euphemism) he less than gloriously dropped out of training and went on to pursue a less than glorious career in the arts. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:35 pm |
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Why all the praise for Diablo Stupid Name Cody for projecting all her strippers sass onto a girl.
Man, do I agree. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:18 am |
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Second that!
And this: Though the concepts may have impressed the boys at FHM, for me, they had no intellectual resonance. Neither did I empathise with any of the characters, except, maybe, for the fat, bullet-proof Indian
Nor did I much care for having the bottom dream level be a James Bond movie. Maybe I just can't accept that the deepest level of the human unconscious is full of snowmobiles and automatic weapons. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:00 am |
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I'm old enough to remember George VI quite well. A nice man who, indeed, did not want to be king. Fortunately for the free world he did become king and his idiot brother was shipped off to Nassau.
I remember when George VI died, and the coronation of Elizabeth II. In school we had to change from singing God Save the King to God Save the Queen. It seemed so weird at the time. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:12 pm |
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Quote: Though the concepts may have impressed the boys at FHM, for me, they had no intellectual resonance.
You're implying the movie was somehow unsuccessful because of this? It's not Philip K. Dick, it's Matrix 2k10. I think the intended reaction was "woah, cool!", not "hmmm". For the record: I thought it was only okay ("meh, this is fun, I guess"), but not because I was expecting Deep Thought. It just wasn't all that cool.
Quote: Nor did I much care for having the bottom dream level be a James Bond movie. Maybe I just can't accept that the deepest level of the human unconscious is full of snowmobiles and automatic weapons.
Wasn't "the deepest level of the human subconscious" supposed to be that place that they went after they dream-died, the place they couldn't wake up from? The first two dreams were supposed to be somewhat real-life-like so that dude wouldn't know that he was dreaming and wake up; in the third dream, the snowy fortress thingy, he was supposed to know that he was dreaming because Leo convinced him that going to sleep and dreaming about snowmobiles and machine guns would help him fight off the intruders in the second dream.
At least that's what I understood. Who cares, really?
I only checked in to see what everyone thought of The Social Network. I liked it. A lot. I went in flabbergasted that anyone would ever conceive that something as mundane as the founding of Facebook would make good cinema, but I was wrong. I think David Fincher is a good director, but only as good as his screenplay allows him to be (Benjamin Button, fuck you), so I'll convey the most praise to Aaron Sorkin, who, as usual, writes some of the smartest, best dialogue that doesn't sound like anyone in real life would ever speak, but is entertaining as hell. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:28 pm |
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Quote: Wasn't "the deepest level of the human subconscious" supposed to be that place that they went after they dream-died, the place they couldn't wake up from?
I thought it was when you dreamed of Shannon coming back to Third Eye after disappearing for a couple of years. Welcome back stranger!
Quote: I'll convey the most praise to Aaron Sorkin, who, as usual, writes some of the smartest, best dialogue that doesn't sound like anyone in real life would ever speak, but is entertaining as hell.
Totally agree with this. I didn't even know he wrote the screenplay and am now slightly more psyched to see it, and slightly more scared of having my sky-high expectations shot to hell. |
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