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chillywilly wrote: You make a valid point. Like a stereotyped character... Bob Denver never being able to play anyone else but Gilliagan type of career.
Did you know Cera might play Gilligan, or was that just a coincidence? |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:54 pm |
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| There are performers--Diane Keaton comes to mind, it looked like Lisa Kudrow might become another, but her career seems to have dried up--who are regularly typecast, and are a willing part of the process, but they manage to find a variation on the character they play, so they stay interesting. Woody Allen himself is an example (though as he plays autobiographical characters, he's in a different category). But Cera is not. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:00 pm |
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| So many American actors seem to welcome stereotyping--or maybe it's just studio habit to look for "a type" when casting. One exception, Dustin Hoffman, managed to break through by refusing to go along with it at the beginning of his career, but once a star is established, it's tough. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:02 pm |
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grace wrote: chillywilly wrote: You make a valid point. Like a stereotyped character... Bob Denver never being able to play anyone else but Gilliagan type of career.
Did you know Cera might play Gilligan, or was that just a coincidence?
Pure coincidence. I didn't know. His career is doomed. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:50 pm |
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chillywilly wrote: grace wrote: chillywilly wrote: You make a valid point. Like a stereotyped character... Bob Denver never being able to play anyone else but Gilliagan type of career.
Did you know Cera might play Gilligan, or was that just a coincidence?
Pure coincidence. I didn't know. His career is doomed.
They're going to vote him off the island. |
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grace wrote: chillywilly wrote: You make a valid point. Like a stereotyped character... Bob Denver never being able to play anyone else but Gilliagan type of career.
Did you know Cera might play Gilligan, or was that just a coincidence?
Which is odd because he started off playing Maynard G. Krebs on Dobie Gillis (quite a different character) and had a second series with Alan Hale after Gilligan's Island (more of a variant on Gilligan). |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:38 am |
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| I never watched a full episode of "Gilligan's Island" and Bob Denver will always be Maynard to me. ("Europa!") |
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| Joe - I know what point you're making but beg to differ on Diane Keaton. She's played everything from the victim in Looking for Mr. Goodbar to mothers, girlfriends, to the feisty Louise Briant in Reds. and of course, Annie Hall. She may have grown too old to play all of these characters but Her range is wonderful; perhaps one of the few actresses today who can do it all. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:33 pm |
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Really liked Keaton in that film in which she costarred with Nicholson... forgot the title... but it was a great age-appropriate love story, meaning they didn't duck away from the realities - and limitations - of their ages.
Let's not forget that Keaton was also in The Godfather as Michael Corleone's overwhelmed and overwrought wife. |
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| I have a theory that every movie Keaton made after The Godfather includes a reference to The Godfather or at least a reference to one of the actors in it. This includes all her Woody Allen movies. But the weirdest instance is in Looking For Mr. Goodbar, where her character is actually sitting in the bar reading The Godfather, and Richard Gere walks up to her, notes the book and then references how great Brando was in the movie. Very meta. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:16 pm |
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lshap wrote: Really liked Keaton in that film in which she costarred with Nicholson... forgot the title... but it was a great age-appropriate love story, meaning they didn't duck away from the realities - and limitations - of their ages.
"Something's Gotta Give," one of my mother's favorites, though even she thinks Keaton should have gone with Keanu Reeves. |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I have a theory that every movie Keaton made after The Godfather includes a reference to The Godfather or at least a reference to one of the actors in it. This includes all her Woody Allen movies. But the weirdest instance is in Looking For Mr. Goodbar, where her character is actually sitting in the bar reading The Godfather, and Richard Gere walks up to her, notes the book and then references how great Brando was in the movie. Very meta.
I don't know if I ever saw Looking For Mr. Goodbar. Very cheeky moment. But your theory goes beyond that and into the "Diane Keaton drinking game" territory. Spot the mob reference, have a shot. Through the temple. Seriously, I'd be really curious to see if you're onto something there, or if you just really need to find a hobby. |
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Marj wrote: Joe - I know what point you're making but beg to differ on Diane Keaton. She's played everything from the victim in Looking for Mr. Goodbar to mothers, girlfriends, to the feisty Louise Briant in Reds. and of course, Annie Hall. She may have grown too old to play all of these characters but Her range is wonderful; perhaps one of the few actresses today who can do it all.
Missed this post earlier. You're right. And there's The Little Drummer Girl, too. |
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carrobin wrote: lshap wrote: Really liked Keaton in that film in which she costarred with Nicholson... forgot the title... but it was a great age-appropriate love story, meaning they didn't duck away from the realities - and limitations - of their ages.
"Something's Gotta Give," one of my mother's favorites, though even she thinks Keaton should have gone with Keanu Reeves.
It kind of falls apart toward the end after Nicholson's forced stay with Keaton, but Keaton's a delight. And I think she should have gone with Reeves, too, who had more stamina. |
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| Never saw The Little Drummer Girl. Almost hated the book so had no desire to see the movie. |
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