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| bartist |
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A bit like when I first watched "Buffy," expecting it to be about teenagers and vampires, and it turned out to be a show about people struggling with demons.
You mean, like, inner demons? (otherwise, that sounds like "a distinction without a difference") (kidding) Well, I figure that almost anything on tv will, if you are into the characters, turn out to be more compelling than any nutshell describing would suggest. (Seinfeld goes so far as to spoof itself in that regard, having George and Jerry go to LA to write a tv show (that is essentially Seinfeld) and everyone is really skeptical of the pitch, it sounds so thin...)
I will continue to imagine that a big fraction of the guys who go to the SITC movies are being dragged by spouse/sigboth and leaving fingernail tracks in the sidewalk. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe most guys are fascinated by "relationships." |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:10 pm |
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I think the majority of the guys who go to see the "S&TC" movies are looking at the women. With four different characters to choose from, all gorgeous and sexy, why worry about the plot?
As for the demons on "Buffy," they came in all forms, inner and outer and imaginary and real and close and distant. Some could kill you and some were benign and some were fun to be with (but that didn't mean they wouldn't kill you). Much more like real life than would seem at first glance. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:24 pm |
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bartist wrote: I can't speak for any "typical" Plains/midwest male, but if some of them, like me, would rather watch paint dry than SITC, it wouldn't surprise me. How anyone can give a rat's ass about these silly shallow people is beyond me.
Cashmere isn't an indulgence, it is logic: wool that actually doesn't itch -- freaking brilliant.
What's wrong with some silly shallowness? I think the show was more than that, but even if it weren't, there's a time to eat veggies and a time to eat eclairs. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:47 pm |
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| I would catch the odd episode of Sex and The City and I usually found them entertaining. But I had a hard time with that skinny redhead. She was frighteningly nuts. Then I read a piece about her and she is actually nuts. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:52 pm |
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| I thought Miranda was irritating a good bit of the time, but I liked the issues involving Steve and money, money as a sense of empowerment and what an economically weak male says about said male's masculinity. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:31 pm |
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Gary.........you don't give a wide berth for female variances.
I've seen every single Sex and the City and I used to think it just appealed to women who had experienced a significant dating life. But now I know of married women who love it. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:53 pm |
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Gary.........you don't give a wide berth for female variances.
I don't know what you mean. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:24 pm |
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| basically........I think you tend to be more critical of women than of men......I think. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:29 am |
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| I can't imagine being involved with a woman who watches Sex And The City. Really. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:43 am |
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| I can't imagine being involved with someone who'd decide their partner on the basis of enjoying one television show. |
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:58 am |
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| I would never decide my partner on the basis of their interest or disinterest in a television show. But, I still can't imagine being involved with a woman who watches Sex And The City. Just as I can't imagine being involved with a woman who wears polyester jumpsuits. It could happen, but I don't imagine it. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:17 am |
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Marc and others--There were many, many good things about the television show Sex and the City. There were precisely no good things about the first movie, and from all reports the new two-and-a-half-hour-long (!!!) sequel lowers the bar even further.
Gary--I will answer for Befade, at the risk of being politically incorrect and perhaps wrong. Cynthia Nixon, the marvelous actress who plays Miranda, has been doing stellar stage work in NYC since she was a teenager and maybe even before that. She was the nubile teen in the original stage production of Hurlyburly, acting opposite William Hurt, Christopher Walken, Sigourney Weaver, Jerry Stiller, Judith Ivey, and Harvey Keitel, and more than holding her own.
She has recently "gone gay." Aside from that, I have heard nothing offbeat about her. For an actor, she's rather middle-class and quite normal from all reports. I am assuming, therefore, that you consider Lesbianism "nutty." This is strange, and maybe it's not what you mean, but I'm assuming that's what Betsy is getting at. Right, Betsy? |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:27 am |
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| I thought she gave off a lesbian vibe on the show, which hurt what her character was about. But the big problem for me was that Miranda was perpetually irked. She never seemed to take life easy, she was always on edge. The others, for whatever their personal anxieties, knew how to kick back and enjoy themselve. Miranda was always tense. |
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:46 am |
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Yeah, always tense is the right description. Who wants the spend time with or spend time watching someone who is always tense. They'd have to have really sharp dialogue to be watchable.
No Billy it had nothing to do with her being a lesbian. I don't remember what things she said or thought, but I remember thinking that she was as annoying as her character.
Quote: basically........I think you tend to be more critical of women than of men......I think.
I'm more interested in women. If guys are jerks it doesn't matter that much to me. I just avoid them. As far as characters in a production, like Alicia in The Good Wife, I think she is showing bad judgement. I think Will is a first class creep and that's what disturbs me about her behaviour. I'd think she'd have better taste than that. Her husband hasn't yet shown conclusively that he's not a self centred jerk anymore. So in dramas I'm an equal opportunity critic of the genders, though I am always more disappointed when women act like asses than men. I expect more of them. I want to watch women who make me want to be in their company. Men? Why should I care?  |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:14 am |
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What's wrong with some silly shallowness? I think the show was more than that, but even if it weren't, there's a time to eat veggies and a time to eat eclairs.
Joe:
Flip answer: I fear diabetes.
Less flip answer: I word some opinions strongly -- I don't literally mean that it is beyond my comprehension why someone with differing tastes would find something entertaining and/or meaningful in SITC.
I do like an eclair. The way it sits there on the plate, oozing filling, and remaining silent on the topic of relationships. |
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