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whiskeypriest |
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:44 pm |
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Yeah, I have a problem with the voice over too. That's flaccid, sloppy writing. Any idiot can write a voice-over narration to explain the thoughts of a character.
Or something like that. Actually, the narration in (D)DoS sounded to me like they didn't have the budget to hire James Earl Jones. Didn't mind it so much. |
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:18 pm |
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I think it depends. In some cases the use of voice over in films is a case of sloppy writing, I agree. But then there are a few that are intentional and are used to great affect. Either way, I loved it in Little Children. For me it gave the film a rather interesting dynamic. One that it needed.
I was promised by Netflix that I would receive The Hurt Locker and Inglorious Bastards, next week. (I've been waiting almost a month.) So tonight I revisited Persepolis. God, I love that film. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:40 pm |
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I agree with Marj about some narrations being better than others. Little Children and DDoS were movies where it worked well. Narration still bugs me, though, even when it works. |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:44 pm |
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I really need to see Persepolis.
I'm a little surprised you had to wait so long for IG and HL. I would have thought they stocked lots of copies.
The big problem I'm finding with Netflix is that I'm the king of procrastination, and though I have a a number of movies in my queue I'm eager to see, I have yet to put the previous friggin' dvd in the mail so the next movie will arrive. |
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ehle64 |
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:48 pm |
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I do that ALL THE TIME! I've had the Depp/Dillinger film for a month and a half, but my friend keeps slipping me screeners, so it gets put on the backburner over and over and over again. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:06 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I really need to see Persepolis.
I'm a little surprised you had to wait so long for IG and HL. I would have thought they stocked lots of copies.
The big problem I'm finding with Netflix is that I'm the king of procrastination, and though I have a a number of movies in my queue I'm eager to see, I have yet to put the previous friggin' dvd in the mail so the next movie will arrive.
The minute I finish watching a movie from Netflix, I put it back in the sleeve and put the whole thing in front of the front door so I remember to mail it next time I leave the house. It usually works. |
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Syd |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:10 am |
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While watching Looking for Richard, I came to the conclusion that Al Pacino would make a great Shylock. Unfortunately, he was preparing to play Richard III, and was more than a bit off. I was offput by the all the street scenes on how difficult it is to understand Shakespeare, including Richard III, which is one of the easiest Shakespearean plays to understand. Richard is murdering his way to the throne and telling you how he's going to do it, each step of the way. If this is difficult, what are you going to do when you face King Lear or Measure for Measure? |
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Marj |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:11 am |
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I do the same thing, Billy. And Joe, when I spoke with Netflix today the customer service women told me that Netfilix is expanding. They're going to begin stocking more disks, so this kind of thing won't happen next year.
And yes, you do have to see Persepolis.
Billy, the only other movie that I can think of hand where narration was essential was The Shawshank Redemption. |
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Syd |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:21 am |
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Yes, you have to see Persepolis. |
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yambu |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:42 am |
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Syd wrote: While watching Looking for Richard, I came to the conclusion that Al Pacino would make a great Shylock. Unfortunately, he was preparing to play Richard III, and was more than a bit off. I was offput by the all the street scenes on how difficult it is to understand Shakespeare, including Richard III, which is one of the easiest Shakespearean plays to understand. Richard is murdering his way to the throne and telling you how he's going to do it, each step of the way. If this is difficult, what are you going to do when you face King Lear or Measure for Measure? I'm partial to "the making of..." flicks, and this one is one of the best. I love the way he and Kevin Spacey play off each other. And their Richard III climactic scene is powerful drama.
I love Olivier's version, but I always have trouble keeping track of just who is who. |
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yambu |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:51 am |
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Marj wrote: ....And yes, you do have to see Persepolis.....[/i] In the Netflix preview, the subtitles are half unreadable, because they are not white on black. If the film is this way, I will reluctantly pass. |
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Syd |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:51 am |
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yambu wrote: Syd wrote: While watching Looking for Richard, I came to the conclusion that Al Pacino would make a great Shylock. Unfortunately, he was preparing to play Richard III, and was more than a bit off. I was offput by the all the street scenes on how difficult it is to understand Shakespeare, including Richard III, which is one of the easiest Shakespearean plays to understand. Richard is murdering his way to the throne and telling you how he's going to do it, each step of the way. If this is difficult, what are you going to do when you face King Lear or Measure for Measure? I'm partial to "the making of..." flicks, and this one is one of the best. I love the way he and Kevin Spacey play off each other. And their Richard III climactic scene is powerful drama.
I love Olivier's version, but I always have trouble keeping track of just who is who.
It's fun trying to work out Henry V's claim to the throne of France. Fortunately for Shakespeare, he didn't really have to work out Henry VII's dubious geneological claims. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:20 am |
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yambu wrote: Marj wrote: ....And yes, you do have to see Persepolis.....[/i] In the Netflix preview, the subtitles are half unreadable, because they are not white on black. If the film is this way, I will reluctantly pass.
I tried to watch a well-reviewed Asian horror movie called The Host last night. Didn't get too far because of just the problem yam is referring to. People should wise up about that. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:22 am |
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I am an Al Pacino fan in general, but his personality in Looking for Richard was a complete turn-off for me. He was condescending and narcissistic, playing the star card for all it was worth. And, yes, I agree that Richard III does not require all that elaborate deconstruction. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:52 am |
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Syd wrote: While watching Looking for Richard, I came to the conclusion that Al Pacino would make a great Shylock. Unfortunately, he was preparing to play Richard III, and was more than a bit off. I was offput by the all the street scenes on how difficult it is to understand Shakespeare, including Richard III, which is one of the easiest Shakespearean plays to understand. Richard is murdering his way to the throne and telling you how he's going to do it, each step of the way. If this is difficult, what are you going to do when you face King Lear or Measure for Measure?
Mentioning difficult to understand Shakespeare plays, King Lear immediately popped into my head.
Funny that you concluded that Pacino would make a great Shylock, because he played Shylock in the 2004 The Merchant of Venice. And he was very good. From what I remember it was the only memorable performance. Outside of Shylock and his character, it's really not a very good play and the last scenes are embarrassingly bad. I got the suspicion that someone other than Shakespeare tacked on that silliness. |
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