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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:23 pm Reply with quote
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I really noticed it in one scene where the lead actor and his two buddies are sitting at his cubicle. I'd seen it in the movies, and I remembered the pyramid shot: he's in the middle, the two others below and flanking him. When you see the DVD "letterboxed" it's cropped: you only see him on one side of the frame and the guy to the right of him. Don't understand it at all.

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whiskeypriest
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:59 am Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
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Syd -Do you mean the 3 parts of Henry VI?


No, I meant Richard II. The play gets better as it goes on and poor doomed Richard starts to wax poetic.
...Let us talk of worms, of graves and epitaphs.... One of my favorite speeches. One of Abe Lincoln's, too. Yeah, Richard II's change from the petulant tyrant to a man who realized he wasted time, now doth time waste him, is an interesting turn, and tremendous poetry.

Bard on Film. Special Forum Topic. For Your Consideration.

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Syd
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:51 am Reply with quote
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Richard really gets off on the death of kings. After that speech what else is there to do but kill him?

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Syd
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:55 am Reply with quote
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Richard II also has John of Gaunt's speech about "This scepter'd isle," which is not quite as flattering if you read the whole thing.

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lady wakasa
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:42 am Reply with quote
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Food for thought:

Yesterday, I got an email from Facets, subject line: Directors Who Fell Through the Cracks. It listed several directors and one of their works (I'm assuming on DVD, so the reader would then go buy some):

- HEAVEN'S GATE (Michael Cimino)
- SIBERIADE (Andrei Konchalovsky)
- A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (Richard Lester)
- LA TRUITE (Joseph Losey)
- BLIND BEAST (Yasuzo Masumura)
- SHADOW OF THE VAMPIRE (E. Elias Merhige)
- ADOPTION (Marta Meszaros)
- DAVID AND LISA (Frank Perry)
- THE CANDIDATE (Michael Ritchie)
- WOMEN IN LOVE (Ken Russell)
- SWEET SMELL OF SUCCESS (Alexander Mackendrick)
- GUIMBA THE TYRANT (Cheick Oumar Sissoko)
- STORY OF A THREE DAY PASS (Melvin Van Peebles)
- ON THE SILVER GLOBE (Andrzej Zulawski)
- GIRL WITH A SUITCASE (Valerio Zurlini)

The problem is, I don't think several of these directors *have* fallen through the cracks. It may be more an issue of popular audiences are looking at popular things. Michael Cimino has had his rehabilitation, Richard Lester did fine career-wise, and Ken Russell = forgotten? Er, no.

But I am tempted to track some of these down now.

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Syd
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:52 am Reply with quote
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I just looked up Richard Lester's filmography. I've seen a lot more of his films than I realized. He was the credited director of Superman II in 1980, although there was controversary about that. But he did a lot more than his films with the Beatles and hardly fell through the cracks. Hell, The Knack …and How to Get It won the Palme d'Or at Cannes.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:03 pm Reply with quote
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Oh, wow, Lady that's an interesting topic. And maybe a potential forum. If the point is that the directors fell through the cracks after making the listed movie, that's at least false as far as Lester, Richie and Russell are concerned. (I'm unfamiliar with a lot of the directors on the list, so can't speak for their work.) On the other hand, if the point is that the quality of their work suffered later on, sure, but isn't that true for the careers of most directors?

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Marc
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:06 pm Reply with quote
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Joe is right. Richard Lester, Ken Russell and Michael Ritchie hardly fell through the cracks. Michael Cimino cracked up.

To that list I would add Nicolas Roeg, Monte Hellman, Abel Ferrara and Bob Rafalson.
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lady wakasa
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:23 pm Reply with quote
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Yeah, I agree - there's an interesting topic there, but some of the people on the list shouldn't fall into into.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:18 pm Reply with quote
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Michael Ritchie was the director of one of my favorite films of all time, Smile, a 1975 comedy-drama about a teenage beauty pageant that rivals the same year's Nashville in the genre of multi-drama. Bruce Dern, Barbara Feldman, Michael Kidd, and Annette O'Toole are just a few of the cast members giving their best-ever performances under Ritchie's great direction.
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Marc
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:25 pm Reply with quote
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SMILE is a blast. A real riot. A favorite of mine.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:56 pm Reply with quote
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I love it, too. "...and that woman had a wooden leg."

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:30 pm Reply with quote
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Barbara Feldon, duh.

The movie, in addition to being hilarious, has a core of dramatic truth. It's a truly unsung masterpiece, and Michael Ritchie deserves most of the credit.
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Trish
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:19 pm Reply with quote
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watched Dirty Filthy Love ala Netflix online last night (Glad I got it in before my computer became ravaged by this very ugly virus-- Evil or Very Mad Shocked - major bummer! )

I just LOVE Michael Sheen - he is such a gifted actor. Even when he does crap (which this film is definitely NOT). Why hasn't he been nominated for an oscar yet - it WILL Happen.

This film is an excellent look at a guy struggling with (mostly) untreated OCD and Tourette's. Shirley Henderson is equally wonderful as a fellow OCD sufferer who tries to help him.
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gromit
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:32 pm Reply with quote
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Never heard of Smile.
Will have to look for it.

Michael Ritchie's The Candidate is a good film. Despite minor reservations, I just picked up Downhill Racer since Criterion just released it.

When I was a pup, I had a crush on Barbara Feldon, just behind Barbara Eden and ahead of Suzanne Pleshette in intensity.

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