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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:57 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
YALE BEATS HARVARD 29/29 is another good one.


BTW - I love ya, dude, but it's Harvard Beats Yale 29/29...
The order *is* important to the story.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:06 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks, Gromit. Will check them out. And let's not downplay the pleasure of a shirtless Bronson, even though there's a lot more to him than that.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:09 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Joe--I haven't seen Once Upon a Time in the West (I've tried but can't seem to get into it, though I adore The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly).

But your "minor" criticism is one I can relate to. As an old-timer, I prefer the old kind of credits which appear at the beginning of the movie. Strange placements of credits always strike me as affected, and, yes, they create an anxious feeling as if the movie hadn't begun. Good point. When "teasers" first began--a scene or two before the opening credits to get you hooked on the story--I rather liked them, but then it became a cliche. And now the trend is to make the opening credit just the title, with all the credits at the end. Hate it.


I get a big kick out of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, too. I don't think I've ever liked Eli Wallach more (how can such a bastard of a character still be so enjoyable?).

I'm glad I'm not alone about opening credits.

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Marc
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:24 pm Reply with quote
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Lady,

yer right, Harvard Beats Yale 29/29. My bad.
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Marc
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:31 pm Reply with quote
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Joe,

Have you seen Bronson in Walter Hill's HARD TIMES. It's a gritty little film in which Bronson plays a bare knuckle fighter during the depression. It takes place in New Orleans. A very good movie. James Coburn also stars..
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:54 pm Reply with quote
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In fact, I just watched it day before yesterday. I agree with you about the movie, which has a well realized Depression-era quality. But I got pissed off and wrote a bad review on Amazon because the DVD is pan 'n' scam.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:01 pm Reply with quote
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Went to Amazon. Rider on the Rain is only available pan 'n' scam, too. What's up with that?

Red Sun only available in all region or very expensive Region 1. Out of print, seemingly. Damn.

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chillywilly
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:26 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
In fact, I just watched it day before yesterday. I agree with you about the movie, which has a well realized Depression-era quality. But I got pissed off and wrote a bad review on Amazon because the DVD is pan 'n' scam.

Pan n scam would get a bad review from me, too. Which is why I appreciate films that get remastered in widescreen.

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Marc
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:34 pm Reply with quote
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One of my all time favorite films FEARLESS starring Jeff Bridges and directed by Peter Weir is only available in pan and scan on dvd. WTF! This is a great film and certainly deserves better treatment.
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:52 pm Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
One of my all time favorite films FEARLESS starring Jeff Bridges and directed by Peter Weir is only available in pan and scan on dvd. WTF! This is a great film and certainly deserves better treatment.


The same is true of Clean and Sober, a great film which has a huge cult following. Why???
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Marc
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:13 pm Reply with quote
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Billy,

both Clean and Sober and Fearless, among many other fine films, were box office failures that only developed followings after being released on DVD. Those DVDs are discounted and cheap. There's no money to be made making new DVDs transfers for these kinds of films. They're already sold what they're gonna sell by now. Though, Peter Weir being Peter Weir, I can see a future Criterion edition of Fearless.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:11 pm Reply with quote
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Is it particularly more expensive to letter box a DVD?

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Marc
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:25 pm Reply with quote
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Joe, no. It's probably more expensive to pan and scan a video then release it in it's original format. Pan and scan is being phased out now that televisions are designed for widescreen. The pan and scan format is still primarily popular for children's films. Kids want the full screen.

In the case of films like Fearless and Clean and Sober, the studios don't see any money in re-formatting the dvds. As I said, these two films are heavily discounted, have already been purchased by 1000s of video rental stores and the folks who want to own them. The studios don't think there's much of a market for them. They've sold what they're going to sell. But, again, in the case of Fearless, I do see the possibility of a Criterion release.


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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:36 pm Reply with quote
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Curiously, I've seen movies that are "letterboxed" but in fact pan and scan. There are black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, but still only half the screen image is there. Office Space is an example. I find that very odd.

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Marc
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:49 pm Reply with quote
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that's weird.
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