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chillywilly
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:13 pm Reply with quote
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Adding to the Mamet discussion...

State and Main was more enjoyable to me than Heist was. Philip Seymour Hoffman helped make it great. And so did David Paymer. And Mrs. Mamet wasn't too horrible.

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And Charlton Heston is fabulous as the First Player; this is one piece of stunt casting that was inspired.


That's my favorite performance by him. It's a delight to watch.

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Marj
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:45 pm Reply with quote
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I'm glad you mentioned State and Main. It's a film I've been curious about for a while now. And now, it's going into my queue.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:21 pm Reply with quote
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It's terrible, Marj.

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billyweeds
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:46 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
It's terrible, Marj.


Agreed. I had forgotten it existed, and now it's been forced back into my memory. Darn.
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billyweeds
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:49 pm Reply with quote
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The best Hamlet I've ever seen was Richard Burton on stage. (The movie was made on the cheap and it showed.)
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billyweeds
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:12 pm Reply with quote
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There's a cult film that I heard about fairly recently that has become sort of the Rocky Horror of the 2000s. It's called The Room and I rented it from Netflix. It came this week and I've already seen it twice. It'a a truly terrible movie--written, directed and produced by, and starring a strange Eurotrash type named Tommy Wiseau--but a strangely endearing one and one of the most non-stop unintentionally funny ones I've ever seen, on a par with Valley of the Dolls.

There are lines of dialogue which mean nothing out of context but which are destined to stay with me for the rest of my life. I'm already quoting this movie a lot.

You must see The Room. You will never forget it.


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yambu
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:18 pm Reply with quote
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daffy wrote:

The best Hamlet I've ever seen remains, to this day, the BBC version that came out in 1979 or '80. It has some limitations in that it was shot on old-style video in a TV studio, with a low budget and low production values but it has very few faults, otherwise. Shot with a sensibility somewhere between cinema and theater, the director sets things up and then steps back out of the way to let the actors do the rest. There is no attempt to stamp it with a new interpretation; they do nearly the entire script and it's all done very straightforward. Remarkably, with actors who can handle it, it's far more interesting this way (old Will knew what he was doing). Derek Jacobi is superb as the prince, funny and touching and heartbreaking. Claire Bloom as Gertrude is fabulous. The Gravediggers are terrific. Eric Porter plays Polonius and for once the character seems like he is capable of all his roles as royal adviser, father, and meddler; he’s perfect (funny, too). And Patrick Stewart is an amazing Claudius. He is every inch a king; you get the feeling that he really is a better king than the Old Hamlet, but had the misfortune to be born second. The only problem is the way he got the throne and his queen. It was the first time I ever saw Stewart and I've never forgotten it.
I wasn't aware that it had been a series. The only one I caught back then was Julius Ceasar. Though it has no cast members I recognize, it remains my favorite production of it. Ill check out the Hamlet. Also in my near queue is Burton's Hamlet. I saw him live on Bwy, circa '62. I had a Student Rush ticket way upstairs in the back, but when he was onstage, I felt I was front row center.

Daff, this was a great post. I hadn't realized you were such a Bard guy.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:23 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
There's a cult film that I heard about fairly recently that has become sort of the Rocky Horror of the 2000s. It's called The Room and I rented it from Netflix. It came this week and I've already seen it twice. It'a a truly terrible movie--written, directed and produced by, and starring a strange Eurotrash type named Tommy Wiseau--but a strangely endearing one and one of the non-stop unintentionally funny ones I've ever seen, on a par with Valley of the Dolls.

There are lines of dialogue which mean nothing out of context but which are destined to stay with me for the rest of my life. I'm already quoting this movie a lot.

You must see The Room. You will never forget it.


I've been hearing about The Room for a while now. I'm just not into the Ed Wood kinda good/bad movie.

There's only one Rocky Horror, and it's not my love of the movie that makes me say that. (They tried to use the re-release of Valley of the Dolls in the early 2000's as "Rocky Horror for the 21st century." It's a great comic movie but no other movie inspires the devotion/emulation that Rocky does. Not even the fabulous Phantom of the Paradise.)

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Marj
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:31 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks, Joe and Billy.

I'm going to move State and Main down and The Room up my queue. Normally, I'd just drop the film all together, but I'm just too curious to do that.
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Syd
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The BBC did all of the Shakespearean plays, including the ones people try to forget. I particularly liked their version of Measure for Measure and the last part of Richard II.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:42 pm Reply with quote
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Marj wrote:
Thanks, Joe and Billy.

I'm going to move State and Main down and The Room up my queue. Normally, I'd just drop the film all together, but I'm just too curious to do that.


Please post on The Room when you see it. I'd love to hear your opinion.

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Marj
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:49 pm Reply with quote
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I will, Joe. But it may be awhile.
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Marc
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:59 am Reply with quote
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Billy,

THE ROOM is a midnight movie hit here in Austin. It plays periodically at the Alamo Drafthouse. I've been avoiding it but, based on your review, I'm renting it tomorrow.
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billyweeds
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:00 am Reply with quote
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To be clear about it, The Room is surreally bad, subterraneously bad, rhapsodically,operatically bad in a way you couldn't come close to achieving if you intentionally set about to make a terrible film.
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