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| mirgun |
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Marc wrote: Gore and horror are not the same thing to me. I find over-the-top gore effects, if they're imaginatively done, to be entertaining but not frightening. Splatter fests like Ichi The Killer and Re-Animator are more fun than frightening.
i think you're right. Speaking of extreme gore, Ichi the Killer is "fun" |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:33 pm |
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| Cronenberg's The Fly is a good one. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:36 pm |
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| That's probably why I'm willing to watch Repo! the Genetic Opera and The Machine Girl and skip things like Saw and Hostel 2. Love Re-Animator. |
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| marantzo |
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| Usually in well done gory scenes I laugh out loud. The audience I'm with (usually very small matinee audiences) are never with me. The beheading scene in Beyond The Valley of The Dolls was one of the funniest visuals I've seen. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:43 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Usually in well done gory scenes I laugh out loud. The audience I'm with (usually very small matinee audiences) are never with me. The beheading scene in Beyond The Valley of The Dolls was one of the funniest visuals I've seen.
Word. The beheaded actor, Michael Blodgett, became a writer thereafter. |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:23 pm |
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| Not into horror, I enjoyed El orfanato (The Orphanage) immensely. Well-placed scares, terrific acting, and a script that is rich in story as well as dialogue. Produced by (among others) Guillermo del Toro, it was a wonderful follow-up to his Pan's Labyrinth. Another horror film I enjoyed was The Others - I enjoy films that have a good story and edgy plot with just enough scary stuff to keep me nervous and non-contrived twists that satisfy. To me, that's the mark of good horror - the kind that makes you think. |
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| Syd |
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billyweeds wrote: marantzo wrote: Usually in well done gory scenes I laugh out loud. The audience I'm with (usually very small matinee audiences) are never with me. The beheading scene in Beyond The Valley of The Dolls was one of the funniest visuals I've seen.
Word. The beheaded actor, Michael Blodgett, became a writer thereafter.
Impressive that he could write without a head. Although it would qualify him to write for Michael Bay. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:53 pm |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:01 am |
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| At $13,000 per screen, Antichrist has the best box office average of any film released last year. It may become an arthouse hit. |
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| Joe Vitus |
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billyweeds wrote: marantzo wrote: Usually in well done gory scenes I laugh out loud. The audience I'm with (usually very small matinee audiences) are never with me. The beheading scene in Beyond The Valley of The Dolls was one of the funniest visuals I've seen.
Word. The beheaded actor, Michael Blodgett, became a writer thereafter.
I always wondered what happened to him. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:48 am |
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lshap wrote: Joe Vitus wrote: I think it gets a bad rap because it's a poorly acted, completely unfrightening, and plot-wise fairly ridiculous movie.
So it became a phenomenon because millions of people just thought they were scared shitless?
Your comments don't hold water because they could apply equally well to any horror film ever made. Or comedy for that matter, if you swap "unfrightening" and "unfunny". I'd use your exact words to describe every Stephen King horror film ever made, but I recognize that part of it's me; millions of others actually respond to the guy. Some people inexplicably don't get Monty Python. Personal taste - go figure.
But if the goal of a horror film is to scare people, it's hard to argue BWP is an off-the-charts success story, and it crossed almost every demographic in the process cause it wasn't just the Freddy/Jason fans going to see it. The fact that it didn't re-use an old formula, barely spent a dime and had zero star power makes it a head-shaking success for the ages.
It became a phenomenon because people bought the hype. And like a lot of one-minute-wonders, when people looked back on it later, they realized they'd jumped on the bandwagon of something that wasn't very good. Other than a couple of people on this forum, I know of no one who found Blair Witch scary. The operative word is ususally "disappointing."
I think there's also a sub-category of people who are really good at scaring themselves. So they work themselves up that they are going to see a "horror classic" and scream like happy maniacs throughtout the movie, and then go around telling everyone how scary the movie was.
Is it all a matter of taste and what someone finds scary is anaogous to what someone finds funny? Maybe. Guess you could say that about any genre, though you really aren't saying much. Blair Witch had about 15 minutes of good rep and since then has been dropped into the dustbin by horror fans. So it's not just me, or a few unimpressed people. The movie ultimately didn't do much for people who love the genre. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:50 am |
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| Joe, If Blair Witch Project hadn't been on the receiving end of so much hype, it would have probably suffered less backlash. |
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| Befade |
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And I'm going to bet it will be hard to stomach. Sex, loss, guilt, violence.
BRIGHT STAR
I think Jane Campion has a theme: passion in the midst of grimness. Bright Star is a tearjerker. When you're in love, why can't you just be together? Do you have to get married? Do you have to have an income?
There was a nice helping of the poetry of John Keats. Abbie Cornish was omnipresent as his love of 3 years. The biggest problem I had with the film was that Cornish had more than 2 dozen costume changes. Keats, maybe one. Fanny Brawne was supposed to be poor......and yes she was a talented seamstress......but it definitely distracted me to see her in a different outfit every 10 minutes (I didn't like the outfits either.......but they'll probably get a costume nomination) |
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Betsy,
my friend and I walked out of Bright Star. We were hugely disappointed and we're both Jane Campion fans. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:20 am |
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She doesn't make perfect films does she? I don't think Bright Star is a guy's movie. There were times when you could feel the passion between the (almost) lovers.......but I wouldn't see it again.
I never walk out of films. I want to see if they improve as they move on. |
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