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Syd
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:02 pm Reply with quote
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One of Leigh's choices for a rental was Titan A. E., which I hadn't seen since it first came out and the plot of which I had forgotten except that I remembered that Titan was a spaceship people were looking for. I also remembered it had beautiful backgrounds behind mediocre traditional animation and that didn't work.

The movie begins with the Drej destroying the Earth because we developed the Titan. Our hero is four at this point and is evacuated from Earth while his father rescues the Titan. We next see him fifteen years later in a space colony where he seems to be the sole human; a human/alien ship arrives searching for the Titan. There is naturally a pretty girl aboard the spaceship for him to meet cute. It turns out the father left a map to Titan with his son, so off we are on a search for the last, best hope for man in the universe, Drej in hot pursuit.

Titan A. E. had serious problems on the big screen, which are only made much more obvious on the small screen. The character animation simply doesn't work with the beautiful backgrounds, and I noticed how much of the movie's plot resembled a video game. It's not good when you're thinking of Wing Commander while watching a science-fiction movie. The aliens are drawn in a traditional animation style, except for the Drej, which are the coolest thing in the movie. They are spidery energy beings who fly spaceships which seem to be made entirely of force fields. Unfortunately they are given some of the lamest lines in the history of cinema.

The soundtrack features some dreadful rock songs that don't fit at all with the rest of the movie, except for the awful lyrics. When we get something that is supposed to awe us, we are given a chorus of women's voices to give us some sort of religious experience.

Perhaps a movie better left in amnesia.

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lady wakasa
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I just read an alternative take of Amelie as a French Emma... i really need to check that.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:33 pm Reply with quote
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Emma as in Jane Austen? That is interesting. I hated Amelie. But later in Seattle, I was dating a guy who spoke French fluently (no cracks, anyone), and he said you really had to know the language to fully appreciate it because the dialogue for the movie was perfect. So maybe I just wasn't able to appreciate it.

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Marc
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:42 pm Reply with quote
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yeah, Amelie didn't charm me either.
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lissa
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:56 pm Reply with quote
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Very often, a film loses much in the sub-titling of it. I loved Amélie and actually watched it in French, reverting to subtitles when the language was locale-specific.

Same thing happened with Train de Vie - not only the French, but the Yiddish in that film loses MUCH in the translation of the subtitles. I barely bothered with subtitles for that one, except when they spoke German (and the Yiddish I didn't understand). That's the trouble with subtitles/dubbing (*shudders* I hate dubbed films)

But I'll have to watch Amélie with the new perspective - interesting!

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:29 pm Reply with quote
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Speaking of French movies, would anyone be interested in a film forum on Pagnol's Marseilles trilogy: Marius, Fanny and Cesar? I was thining of buying the DVD collection—I haven't seen the movies in years—and the series is important to film history even though it isn't technologically innovative in any way. I was thinking it or Renoir (a great, but more obvious choice) would make a good forum. Or Ophuls, though without a DVD Lola Montez the forum would lack a climax. Thoughts?

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Syd
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:31 pm Reply with quote
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I've never heard of the movies.

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Earl
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Syd wrote:
I've never heard of the movies.


They're like TV, only bigger and with a bunch of strangers in the room with you.

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Joe Vitus
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The Marseille trilogy was very popular in the 30's, 40's, and 50's, and probably had a lot to do with turning Americans onto foreign films. They deal with a more complex sexual issue than American movies, but they are basically sentimental and conservative.

Pagnol was a novelist, playwrite, memoirist. Turning his play Marius into a movie convinced him that film was the new medium. But strangely, his movies are pretty much filmed theater and nothing more.

The 1980's movies Jean de Florette and Manon of the Spring are based on a two-part novel of his (which has actually been filmed before, back in the 50's, I think).

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Marc
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would anyone be interested in a film forum on Pagnol's Marseilles trilogy: Marius, Fanny and Cesar?


Joe, there are other forums for such esoteric French films. Check out "Le Film Snob".
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:44 pm Reply with quote
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The are't any more esoteric than a forum on Hepburn-Tracy movies. The Pagnol series was very popular and is regularly shown on TCM.

But, okay, you're proving once again that you are less interested in active discussion than the site continuously reflecting your interest, only. Got the message. Won't continue trying to introduce more topics.

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lissa
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:46 pm Reply with quote
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Joe, how available are the films? I'm always up for discovering new International films. Please don't stop introducing topics - put out your ideas and let more than one person weigh in...my opinion, anyway. Why go elsewhere to discuss films when we're all here to discuss films..? Cool

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Marc
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:53 pm Reply with quote
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Joe, I was joking.

I am probably as knowledgeable about French film as anyone here. I would love to have a discussion on the films of Jean Eustache. The Mother And The Whore is one of the greatest films I've ever seen. Good luck getting a copy.
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Marc
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:56 pm Reply with quote
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Joe, if this site were to reflect only my interests, there would be no forums other than film. No tv, no books, no music, no theater no politics. I created this site, but I gladly gave up all control to the community at large. I can only state my opinion, I can't enforce it, nor would I want to. I'm barely even here.
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Syd
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:02 am Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
The Marseille trilogy was very popular in the 30's, 40's, and 50's, and probably had a lot to do with turning Americans onto foreign films. They deal with a more complex sexual issue than American movies, but they are basically sentimental and conservative.

Pagnol was a novelist, playwrite, memoirist. Turning his play Marius into a movie convinced him that film was the new medium. But strangely, his movies are pretty much filmed theater and nothing more.

The 1980's movies Jean de Florette and Manon of the Spring are based on a two-part novel of his (which has actually been filmed before, back in the 50's, I think).


I've seen Jean de Florette and Manon of the Spring and like both. Jean de Florette a bit better.

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