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| gromit |
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I'm a big Alphaville fan myself.
I just love how one character -- Lemmy Caution -- just totally plays by his own rules, as though he strode in from another film. And the odd way in which lighting, angles and chutzpah transform 1960's Paris into a futuristic world. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:03 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: billyweeds wrote: Gary has a good point, Marc. Folks like you and I (yes, me too) decide that G.I. Joe is shit sight unseen, but won't cut Gary slack on whether he wants to make sight-unseen judgments on films we like. Double standard?
Btw, I dislike most of Godard. Inglourious Basterds was better than any Godard I've ever seen save possibly Breathless, which I think is also somewhat overrated though "great" because groundbreaking.
Mouth agape. Not love Godard????
And now you know what we feel when you downgrade Hitchcock. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:51 am |
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Except my position makes sense.  |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:52 am |
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gromit wrote: I'm a big Alphaville fan myself.
I just love how one character -- Lemmy Caution -- just totally plays by his own rules, as though he strode in from another film. And the odd way in which lighting, angles and chutzpah transform 1960's Paris into a futuristic world.
Pretty much the same reaction here. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:58 am |
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gromit wrote: I just love how one character -- Lemmy Caution -- just totally plays by his own rules, as though he strode in from another film.
Eh, I bet it's just the name. %^D |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:35 pm |
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Looking for Richard, with Al Pacino narrating and acting some scenes from "Richard III", is about the making of its Shakespeare in the Park production.
I felt good when he said at the outset that this is no easy play for people living 400 years after its first run. The family tree alone is enough to lose an audience. And while I love Olivier's movie version, I see now that he really gutted the plot, no doubt for simplicity's sake.
This is Pacino at his wittiest and most passionate. I love all the arguments among the cast as to interpretations, etc. They act out some scenes. Richard's rebuking of his pal the Duke of Buckingham (Kevin Spacey) is worth seeing over and over. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:24 am |
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| Just watched BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN for the very first time. Wiping tears from my eyes. Profoundly moving. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:09 am |
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Marc wrote: Just watched BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN for the very first time. Wiping tears from my eyes. Profoundly moving.
Amazed you'd never seen it before. What's your excuse? |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:14 am |
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| When I saw it, I made my friend wait till the theater was practically empty before we left - I was a wreck! Glad you enjoyed it, Marc - because it is such an incredible love story. It's hard for me to watch it now...Heath Ledger is bigger than life and his death made it really difficult for me to revisit Brokeback... |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:58 pm |
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Quote: Amazed you'd never seen it before. What's your excuse?
I didn't want people to think I was queer. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:16 pm |
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Marc wrote: Quote: Amazed you'd never seen it before. What's your excuse?
I didn't want people to think I was queer.
Too late for that one. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:23 pm |
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| actually, the guys in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN were bi-sexual. They clearly loved each other, but they were also sexually active with women. They seemed to enjoy fucking women and women considered them to be studs. I know they were under pressure to be "real men" and therefore hetero, but heterosexuality didn't repulse them. It just wasn't as fulfilling as their love for each other. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:33 pm |
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| Oh, so disagree. They married and fucked women because they were deeply in the closet. I don't believe they were remotely bisexual, though I think they tried as hard as the could not to be what they were, particularly Ledger's character. Most gay men throughout history have married, had sex with their wives, had kids. There wasn't much of a way around it if they wanted to survive. It had nothing to do with what was sexually gratifying for them. |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:59 pm |
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| Agree with Joe. Pivotal scene: Ennis (Heath Ledger's character) having sex from behind with his wife; not that it's out of the ordinary, but it was pivotal because it was an obvious effort to recreate what he had with Jack. Neither man had a true intimate connection with their wives, and Jack was much more accepting of his sexuality than Ennis. It was a time where they married for appearances and to avoid stigma. But if they'd been bi-sexual, neither of them would have been so tormented during their times away from each other. Just my opinion. |
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| marantzo |
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According to all the research in recent years they have found no evidence of actual male bisexuality and the conclusion so far is that it doesn't exist or it is very rare.
Gays men are men of course, and as Lenny Bruce said, "Guys will schtup mud."  |
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