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ehle64
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:04 am Reply with quote
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C+

come on people are you THAT hard up for films?
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Marc
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:18 am Reply with quote
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Wade,

what's up with meanspirited bullshit? I'm not hard up for films. I've probably seen more current films than you have and I happen to like INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS. You may have found it mediocre, but I don't consider your opinion the gold standard when it comes to movies. We all have our opinions. Respect the fact. If you want to get into a serious discussion about why you were not impressed by INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS, go at it. It's easier to insult people in here than it is to argue a point intelligently. Insults are usually the last resort of someone who doesn't have anything intelligent to say. I know you well enough to know you are intelligent and insightful. I'd appreciate some of that insight instead of the curt dismissals.
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billyweeds
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:16 am Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy,

What do you think is going on in that restaurant scene, then? Why offer/force on her her the milk? And why the interrogation-like conversation which has little bearing on the new premiere venue for Nation's Pride?


I think Landa is just a pathological control freak who sees a pretty young thing as one more chance for mind control and sadistic power play. He is just a sick fuck who needs no rationale for his little games.

That is why...

SPOILER ALERT
...I'm not sure I think the ending is near horrible enough for him. I think Brad lets him off way too easy.
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Kate
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:39 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy,

What do you think is going on in that restaurant scene, then? Why offer/force on her her the milk? And why the interrogation-like conversation which has little bearing on the new premiere venue for Nation's Pride?


I think Landa is just a pathological control freak who sees a pretty young thing as one more chance for mind control and sadistic power play. He is just a sick fuck who needs no rationale for his little games.

That is why...

SPOILER ALERT
...I'm not sure I think the ending is near horrible enough for him. I think Brad lets him off way too easy.


I think that scene is intentionally ambiguous. It was unbearably tense and you never really know what to think, ever.
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Kate
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:40 am Reply with quote
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I am psyched to see Extract today, I love Jason Bateman.
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ehle64
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:46 pm Reply with quote
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thanks for the KIND dismissal, marc -- i apologize for not liking the same types of films you do.

in fact, i apologize to all for being whatever it is i'm being @ the mo.

to quote steve martin -- EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE me.
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Marc
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:30 pm Reply with quote
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Wade,

as friends, I know you know as I know, that anytime I get up in your face, it's not to diss you but to kiss you. But, sometimes you just comeon like such a bitch....and I know you're not. We're both going through shit, but when I come here I try to leave it at the door or behind the curtain.

The cure all for melancholy: THE MIGHTY BOOSH.
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ehle64
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:33 pm Reply with quote
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marcus well be -- i'll always heart you

honestly? i'm pissed off that taking woodstock sucked!

*kisses*
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Marc
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:42 pm Reply with quote
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I'm disappointed that TAKING WOODSTOCK is getting such lukewarm response. I had every intention of running out and seeing, but now I think I'll wait for the dvd. I was hoping for a brighter and cheerier sister film to THE ICE STORM. Ang Lee can have such insight to American culture, particularly when it's on the fringe.


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Joe Vitus
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:11 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy,

What do you think is going on in that restaurant scene, then? Why offer/force on her her the milk? And why the interrogation-like conversation which has little bearing on the new premiere venue for Nation's Pride?


I think Landa is just a pathological control freak who sees a pretty young thing as one more chance for mind control and sadistic power play. He is just a sick fuck who needs no rationale for his little games.

That is why...

SPOILER ALERT
...I'm not sure I think the ending is near horrible enough for him. I think Brad lets him off way too easy.


I don't know...I mean about the control freak part.

About his getting what he deserves, it's funny how that appeals to me. I mean this is really intolerable in a real life situation. It's analogous to the Puritans who would literally brand people for their "sins." And how can anyone to presume to judge another's soul so thoroughly. But our world is frustratingly ambiguous. We never know where a threat is coming from. It would be nice if all the bad guys really were one-dimensional bad guys, and we could always immediately identify them for what they are.


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Joe Vitus
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:15 pm Reply with quote
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Kate wrote:
billyweeds wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy,

What do you think is going on in that restaurant scene, then? Why offer/force on her her the milk? And why the interrogation-like conversation which has little bearing on the new premiere venue for Nation's Pride?


I think Landa is just a pathological control freak who sees a pretty young thing as one more chance for mind control and sadistic power play. He is just a sick fuck who needs no rationale for his little games.

That is why...

SPOILER ALERT
...I'm not sure I think the ending is near horrible enough for him. I think Brad lets him off way too easy.


I think that scene is intentionally ambiguous. It was unbearably tense and you never really know what to think, ever.


This may be true, but if so, I think less of Tarantino as a writer.

HOWEVER, he did say the movie is supposed to be his response to both Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan. This may be a variation on the scene where the woman comes to ask Schindler to hire her parents, but she can't be sure he's not working for the Nazis and he can't be sure she's not working for the Nazis and so they hedge around each other.

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gromit
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:27 pm Reply with quote
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Sita Sings the Blues is an odd amalgamation of animation styles, shadow puppet narrators who half remember the tale and add in modern jokes, and late 1920's Annette Hanshaw recordings.

It all works better than it probably should, pushed forward by sheer energy, daring and inventiveness.

I listen to Annette Hanshaw a fair amount, so for anyone interested in her music, I'd rec these songs as among her best:
Ev'rything's Made For Love
Do, Do, Do
Big City Blues
Walkin' My Baby Back Home
Fit as a Fiddle
Six Feet of Papa


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lady wakasa
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:10 pm Reply with quote
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gromit wrote:
Sita Sings the Blues is an odd amalgamation of animation styles, shadow puppet narrators who half remember the tale and add in modern jokes, and Annette Hanshaw recordings.


I loved her last "That's All!".

I've sent out a few copies, and I'll probably send out copies with this year's Xmas letter.

And I bought my original copy, and a t-shirt for my sister, to support Nina Paley.

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ehle64
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:14 pm Reply with quote
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i heart L-W
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lshap
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:55 pm Reply with quote
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Saw Inglourious Basterds last night in a quaint, old-fashioned cinema in Morrisville, a tiny Vermont town near Stowe. Primary rural culture meets primary cinematic theme. If nothing else, that's the word that described the film: "Primary". The cinematography, the battle between good and evil, the motives of the characters and their ultimate resolutions - all bold strokes in primary colours. It's mostly a good thing, since I thought Inglourious Basterds was about as entertaining as Tarantino gets. But make no mistake, it comes nowhere near Pulp Fiction in terms of script or sheer cleverness.

But it beats the hell out of anything he's done when it comes to heart-stopping tension.

Some thoughts:

With this role and last year's Burn After Reading, Brad Pitt has become one of my favourite comedic actors.

Christoph Waltz has had decades worth of roles as an actor in Germany, and zero roles in American movies. How the hell did Tarantino find this guy, and when can I see more of him? He's the Best Supporting Actor this year, having singlehandedly set the pulse rate for this film.

Also wanna see much more of Mélanie Laurent and Diane Kruger, for the same reasons and many more.
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