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| mo_flixx |
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Kate Beckinsale WAS boring. The other people I can think of are people (like Kate) who have new kids or young children. That seems all they want to talk about. It's extremely dull because all they do is talk about how wonderful their kids are (I mean...aren't everybody's?).
I'm not surprised about all the info. Dave gets fed to him while the tape is rolling...but at the same time, I'm still surprised that some ass't. director who saw Phoenix before the show didn't say, "We've got a situation in the green room" or "We've got a problem in the makeup room." In other words, I think Dave knew that something was up and that he might have to go to Plan B, whatever that was.
I think it was Oprah who wouldn't do his show for years. Cher was another one who made an appearance in the '80's and didn't come back for a long time. |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:38 pm |
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billy - Joe isn't pro-Phoenix, he's openly anti-Dave. It wouldn't matter who, as long as Dave seemed to have a hard time with the interview, according to Joe. Thing is, as much as you think it was Letterman's struggle, Joe, I don't think it was. I think he made this into the longest-running material he's had since McCain dissed his hospitality. Dave wins. Joaquin loses face. Letterman is the consummate professional and handled a difficult situation to the best of his ability - and bests anyone else, too. (Would love to have seen how Leno would have handled that!) No matter who you talk to, no one respects Joaquin's actions/behavior that night. Except maybe Joe.
And Nancy - I think you're the one who brought this up? Letterman didn't say "Fine, I'll come to your house and not talk," he actually said, "I'll come to your house and chew gum the whole time," which is when Phoenix put his chewing gum under Dave's desk. That is the epitome of rude and idiotic; even if this was a hoax, that's a bit more than over the line.
The more people talk about him, the more weird he looks; I agree with Lorne, no publicist would have sanctioned this behavior. I find myself not caring that much about the fact that Phoenix has announced his retirement from films. He should fade away quietly because he won't be a hot ticket on the talk show circuit much. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:53 pm |
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| I'll go to see him act in movies 'cause he's very good at his job. As a person, however, he has openly, defiantly, disdainfully proclaimed himself to be a shmuck. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:04 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Lorne, I agree with what you said about Defiance, but I don't share your opinion of it. It could have been a great picture. It is a great, interesting and virtually unknown story. Unlike you I had learned about the story when the film came out so I knew how it ended up. I thought the picture delved into some almost kitchy hollywood type turns that really took the edge of it for me. I'm glad I saw it, but it disappointed me.
I'm always more forgiving of the kitsch factor when it's aligned with actual events. Aligned pretty closely, apparently. My Mother-In-Law is friendly with an older Florida couple who supposedly was part of that Bielski community 66 years ago. According to their first-person accounts the film is really accurate. For that reason, what may have generated my cliche alert in most films generated a "Wow" in this one.
And yeah, there is something undeniably poignant about someone laying claim to "first-person accounts" of that era. |
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| Nancy |
| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:12 am |
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lissa wrote:
And Nancy - I think you're the one who brought this up? Letterman didn't say "Fine, I'll come to your house and not talk," he actually said, "I'll come to your house and chew gum the whole time," which is when Phoenix put his chewing gum under Dave's desk. That is the epitome of rude and idiotic; even if this was a hoax, that's a bit more than over the line.
I wasn't the one who mentioned the gum; I mentioned Dave saying to him, "I wish you could have been here tonight," but I agree that Phoenix was rude and idiotic. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:10 am |
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| Marj--I totally agree that Letterman is a genius and Leno is just a comedian with a talk show. What makes this somewhat sad is that Leno used to be a comedian with edge and bite and ingenuity. He also happens to be one of the nicest guys in the business, but that's part of his problem: he's allowed the nice guy to overtake the comedian, and the result is the epitome of blandness. Letterman, meanwhile, who is reputed to be difficult, remains side-splitting and compulsively watchable almost every night, which is simply amazing. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:23 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Marj--I totally agree that Letterman is a genius and Leno is just a comedian with a talk show. What makes this somewhat sad is that Leno used to be a comedian with edge and bite and ingenuity. He also happens to be one of the nicest guys in the business, but that's part of his problem: he's allowed the nice guy to overtake the comedian, and the result is the epitome of blandness.
I agree. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:28 am |
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lshap wrote:
I'm always more forgiving of the kitsch factor when it's aligned with actual events. Aligned pretty closely, apparently. My Mother-In-Law is friendly with an older Florida couple who supposedly was part of that Bielski community 66 years ago. According to their first-person accounts the film is really accurate. For that reason, what may have generated my cliche alert in most films generated a "Wow" in this one.
And yeah, there is something undeniably poignant about someone laying claim to "first-person accounts" of that era.
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A close family friend, named Bielski, was a second-generation Pole along with her family in my home town. The family were devout Catholics. My question is does this make sense? Obviously the Bielskis in "Defiance" were Jewish.
So far, I haven't been able to see the movie, unfortunately. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:19 am |
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enough already with this Phoenix/Letterman shit. Take it to the television forum. This is CURRENT FILM.
I guess this forum reflects just how few good current films have been released recently. Its been lean pickings. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:47 am |
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Mo, usually when a Polish or other nationality name ends in an "i" and is the last name of Jews and non-Jews, the Jews usually spelled it with an "y" at the end, but not always. There are a lot of last names that are the same. In Germany it's (was) all over the place and Poland has quite a few also.
I still remember when gromit saw some documentary about the Nazis and there was a guy named Schwartz among the Nazi officials and he assumed that he was Jewish. Which was ridiculous of course. I enlightened him to the fact that Schwartz was not an uncommon German name. The German Mennonite community in my province has many Schwartzes. Spellings vary. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:16 am |
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LOVED The Reader
Once again, so very happy Winslet won the oscar.
Frost/Nixon and The Reader - so far are my favorite 2008 films (although, technically I saw them in 2009) |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:05 pm |
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Trish wrote: LOVED The Reader
Once again, so very happy Winslet won the oscar.
Frost/Nixon and The Reader - so far are my favorite 2008 films (although, technically I saw them in 2009)
Trish - Your taste is right on. I felt the exact same way about both films, at least in terms of their Oscar status. My favourite was In Bruges, follwed by The Reader, Frost/Nixon and one that fell totally off the radar, Eastwood's Gran Torino. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:12 pm |
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I haven't seen Gran Torino. I wasn't too impressed with the trailers - so I'vebeen a bit reticent to go see it (along with no asmuch time lately to see films). I'm sure I will catch it eventually.
I saw Milk, Slum Dog Millionaire, Benjamin Button which I thought were all good - but none blew me away. There was a serious sound issue at the theatre where I saw Milk.
I thought Penn was great as Milk, although I'm a bit perplexed why there has been so much brouhaha about James Franco and Josh Brolin's performances. I thought they were both fine but neither performance stood out to me.
I just got from Netflix, "I loved you So Long" - I'll be curious how Scott Thomas is in it. Hopefully I'll see Frozen River ala Netflix soon too.
Still need to see The Wrestler |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:36 pm |
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Trish,
I love your post. You and I usually don't agree on movies but this year ... WOW, do we ever! And I agree with Lorne too. The Reader and In Bruges were my favorite movies this year along with Doubt and The Visitor.
I hope you'll see Doubt and add the others to your queue. In Bruges, The Visitor are both available now. Oh, and I forgot Ironman. I rented it because of all of the great reviews here and was amazed at how great it was.
Maybe I'll see Gran Torino someday but I'm in no rush. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:38 pm |
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Better late than never, Trish. I'm sure you'll love Frozen River. Frost/Nixon was my favorite film of the year.
I'd like to see Coraline.
I liked He's Just Not that into you well enough. I had read the book. It's all about dating mistakes women make......ala Sex and the City. For a while the author had his own tv show with dating tips. Of all the actresses in HJNTIY Jinnifer Goodwin carries the film. I like her in Big Love as the naive but spunky 3rd wife. In this film, she's the most clueless of the lot.....clueless but constantly questioning every behavior of every guy she interacts with. Sweet, smart, anxious, analytical, and slow to get the point......she just has a loveable way about her. I hope we see alot more of her. Justin Long was impressive as the patient, nice guy who is just as clueless in his own way. |
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