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| lady wakasa |
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Earl wrote: I guess Jeremy won't be buying me that drink after all.
Although I can see jeremy's point about it... being not so much a frothy confection, but maybe a slight bit lighter than it should have been. A very good film, which reminds me of the very good films at the end of 2007, but I'm not thinking about it days later like I normally do with a movie that gets under my skin.
Eh, it's been a weird holiday season, I haven't been thinking about much of anything (in a not-good way).
I agree that Anil Kapoor was very good, although he had much more at stake in rattling this particular contestant. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:09 am |
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yam would know more about this than I would, but I have a hard time believing that a nun would find ballpoint pens so objectionable in 1964. She has about as much of a problem with ballpoints as Joan Crawford had with wire hangers.
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Many schools in the UK don't allow children to do their course work using a ball point pen. I beleive the (out-moded) thinking is that pens with traditional nibs force the user to form their letters 'correctly'. It was also thought that well-formed, attractive calligaraphy was a skill worth cultivating. Unfortunately, as I'm left-handed, being made to write with a fountain pen was a personal disaster. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:14 am |
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lady wakasa wrote: Earl wrote: I guess Jeremy won't be buying me that drink after all.
Although I can see jeremy's point about it... being not so much a frothy confection, but maybe a slight bit lighter than it should have been. A very good film, which reminds me of the very good films at the end of 2007, but I'm not thinking about it days later like I normally do with a movie that gets under my skin.
Eh, it's been a weird holiday season, I haven't been thinking about much of anything (in a not-good way).
I agree that Anil Kapoor was very good, although he had much more at stake in rattling this particular contestant.
I believe the decision of the film makers not to wring to much emotion from the real drama of the children's lives was deliberate and for the best. Sometimes, staying on the surface and letting the audience filter and weigh what they are seeing is a valid approach.
In calling the film slight, I was alluding to the fact that perhaps the Academy appreciate bigger performances and more signalled drama than Slumdog was offerring. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:05 am |
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Slumdog Millionaire is almost certainly the best movie of 2008. I wish I knew what Earl meant about the ending requiring a spoiler alert. It's almost sadistic for him to drop this hint without following up with an alert.
Earl, how's about that follow-up?
As for supporting performances, how about the brother? Great job.
And does anyone else find it absurd that Patel is being promoted as supporting actor himself? This goes beyond Timothy Hutton and Haing S. Ngor into outright idiocy. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:50 am |
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[quote="jeremy"]mo_flixx wrote: Syd wrote: ...
yam would know more about this than I would, but I have a hard time believing that a nun would find ballpoint pens so objectionable in 1964. She has about as much of a problem with ballpoints as Joan Crawford had with wire hangers.
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Many schools in the UK don't allow children to do their course work using a ball point pen. I beleive the (out-moded) thinking is that pens with traditional nibs force the user to form their letters 'correctly'. It was also thought that well-formed, attractive calligaraphy was a skill worth cultivating. Unfortunately, as I'm left-handed, being made to write with a fountain pen was a personal disaster.
This seemed to be her rationale. She thought it was just barely OK for students to used the ink cartridge pens. I'm not even sure if they still sell these.
However, she got upset if adults (non-students) used ballpoints, too.
Wonder what she'd think today when there are kids who have trouble with cursive penmanship because they type all the time. My young nephew prints but has trouble with cursive. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:13 am |
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| There have been a number of articles about cursive going the way of the dodo. Just another change that is a step backward. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:24 am |
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| Prejudice against ballpoint pens was a precursor of anti-cell phone stuff. And just as stupid IMO. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:55 pm |
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[quote="jeremy"]mo_flixx wrote: Syd wrote: ...
yam would know more about this than I would, but I have a hard time believing that a nun would find ballpoint pens so objectionable in 1964. She has about as much of a problem with ballpoints as Joan Crawford had with wire hangers.
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Many schools in the UK don't allow children to do their course work using a ball point pen. I beleive the (out-moded) thinking is that pens with traditional nibs force the user to form their letters 'correctly'. It was also thought that well-formed, attractive calligaraphy was a skill worth cultivating. Unfortunately, as I'm left-handed, being made to write with a fountain pen was a personal disaster.
Some nuns forced all lefties, like me, to write right-handed. "There will be no claws in MY class." |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:07 pm |
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I barely remember the cartridge fountain pens. I do remember having ink wells(yes, !!) and cheap plastic pens with an interchangeable metal nib that we dipped in the ink wells. This meant for verrry slow writing.
I remember what a trip it was when I discovered a true calligraphy pen with a broad point so I could do fancy lettering. This was perhaps in high school.
As to the quality of our penmanship with those cheap plastic jobbies, forget it. I don't think any student could have really done standout work!
Not only that...but I also have tried to read relatives' letters from the teens and twenties (20th C.), they are extremely difficult to read tho' I imagine their penmanship earned kudos at the time.
My grandmother's handwriting (she was b. in the 19th C.) was extremely readable AND cool. She really had her own style.
My grandfather must have been a fan of ballpoints -- as he'd bring home lots of different ones. Especially pens that let you use blue, black, red, and green ink all in one pen. Of course, we all bought the local cough drops, SMITH BROS.!
Our family would have given Sister Aloyisius a coronary! |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:09 pm |
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| Making left handed writers use their right hand was not exclusive to nuns. My friend who now lives in Nassau was also subjected to forced right-handedness when he was elementary school. Primitive and ineffective, but actually a cruel thing to do in many respects for little kids. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:14 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Making left handed writers use their right hand was not exclusive to nuns. My friend who now lives in Nassau was also subjected to forced right-handedness when he was elementary school. Primitive and ineffective, but actually a cruel thing to do in many respects for little kids.
In all fairness in DOUBT, no one tries to make a left-handed child right-handed. Of course, I'm aware that it was a common practice back then that is frowned upon today.
Trivia: The majority of our recent presidents have been left handed (recently read in wikipedia.org ). |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:22 pm |
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Quote: Slumdog Millionaire is almost certainly the best movie of 2008.
Agree about the qualitiy of the acting etc. But am I the only one who found this movie disturbing? The weight of the horror of the children's lives just wasn't erased by
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:42 pm |
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Befade wrote: Quote: Slumdog Millionaire is almost certainly the best movie of 2008.
Agree about the qualitiy of the acting etc. But am I the only one who found this movie disturbing? The weight of the horror of the children's lives just wasn't washed away by the game show SPOILER win.........for me.
Yes it was surely disturbing. It was an unvarnished depiction of what the lives of kids in that circumstance can entail. Terrific movie. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:46 pm |
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Betsy--My wife agrees with you about the disturbing nature of Slumdog Millionaire. Although she agrees it's an amazing movie and probably her favorite of the year, she probably won't be seeing it again because of scenes like and including...
SPOILER IN WHITE
...the blinding of the young boy.
Speaking of spoilers, Betsy--You might want to put your own spoiler in white or move it down the page a bit. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:50 pm |
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I'd like to point out that the comment about ballpoint pens was mo-flixx's not mine. There's a closing tag missing in the series of quotes so they're getting attributed to the wrong people.
I learned to write with ballpoint pens and my cursive handwriting is bad enough that I sometimes have reading it. |
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