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| yambu |
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mo_flixx wrote: ....Are you expecting hordes of New Yorkers to flood the streets in protest??
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:12 pm |
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yambu wrote: mo_flixx wrote: ....Are you expecting hordes of New Yorkers to flood the streets in protest??
No, but while Gromit laid out good reasons for her appointment, politics is perception, and she won't get it.
Dunno.... My perception is that she'll get it easily.
It would be different if she had a skeleton in the closet, but she doesn't seem to. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:53 pm |
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| BTW, billy, as I think you're the only other senior male American here, and if you don't mind my asking, how did you avoid the draft back in the days of 'Nam? Were you just barely too old? |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:37 am |
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I remember a college reunion's chapel service. I noticed the long list of names inside the chapel for the WWII fallen. And I noticed the list for Vietnam -- only THREE names!
Everyone I knew got some kind of deferment. Early on, one could marry or have children (Cheney's route). I knew some people who got psychological deferments. I don't think I knew anyone who went to Canada. My brother had a draft lottery number over 300, so I knew he wouldn't have to go.
I didn't begin to meet actual Vietnam vets until I got out into the working world. No one in my class served - at least not that I know of. And we're talking over 700 guys. |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:45 am |
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| I avoided the draft by turning 18 the month it was canceled. My draft card said I was "1-H"-- I suppose this means that if the draft is reinstated, I'll be the first to go. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:20 am |
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| My nieghborhood playmate's significantly older brother had a pretty high lottery number, but that's all I remember... |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:48 am |
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yambu wrote: BTW, billy, as I think you're the only other senior male American here, and if you don't mind my asking, how did you avoid the draft back in the days of 'Nam? Were you just barely too old?
Not too old, nor too young. Just exactly the right age. But (thank heaven) I managed to be 4-F because of a minor bout with petit mal epilepsy at the age of 15 or 16, and a bit of hypoglycemia. If I hadn't been 4-F I would probably have been a semi-Canadian for at least a while. I certainly had no intention of fighting in Vietnam. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:10 am |
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| It's really kind of odd that I didn't know anyone who went to Vietnam, except a cousin who had graduated from the Citadel and was a naval officer. My friends at college had deferments of one kind of another. Both of the guys who are still my friends are gay--though that wouldn't necessarily have been relevant, of course, especially to the one who wasn't about to tell anyone back then. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:11 am |
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I had wondered if in the homophobic bad old days, your frequent attendance at Broadway musicals hit and flop would have marked you as a 4-F.  |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:31 am |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:33 am |
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| marantzo |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:06 pm |
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| I doubt that Rick Warren will ever be anything but homophobic--as far as he's concerned, it's In The Bible. But he's got to shut up about it while he's in the Obama spotlight. (I really wonder sometimes about these people who are anti-homosexual because of the Bible. Have they actually read all those prohibitions in Leviticus? Are they aware that Jesus never mentioned homosexuals, though he did criticize adultery and divorce? Somehow that never comes up these days, though it was enough of a hassle when my parents divorced to make my dad switch from Southern Baptist to Methodist.) |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:33 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I had wondered if in the homophobic bad old days, your frequent attendance at Broadway musicals hit and flop would have marked you as a 4-F.
All you had to do is announce a fondness for Liza Minelli in particular. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:38 pm |
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But completely unsurprising. |
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