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| Syd |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:44 pm |
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| The trailers suggest that Heath Ledger gives a really, really bad performance as the Joker. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:48 pm |
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Syd,
Berardinelli's review is clueless camp. I won't be taking his word for the sequal's quality. |
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| Nancy |
| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:58 pm |
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| I figure I'll go see it, and then decide how good it is. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:21 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: Syd,
Berardinelli's review is clueless camp. I won't be taking his word for the sequal's quality.
Joe--You are so on the money it hurts. Berardinelli is the ultimate fanboy, a fairly articulate but totally adolescent critic whose affections are always in the superhero area. |
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| seagull |
| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:48 pm |
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| I dont think ill watch the new Batman. |
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| Rod |
| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:00 pm |
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As someone who was bored witless by Batman Begins, and thinks Chris Nolan's staggeringly over-rated, I can't work up much passion for The Dark Knight. I might go to see it for Ledger - his performance so far as I can tell is the closest anyone's done yet to the goonish malevolence of the character in the original comic books.
Not that I'm in the slightest bit interested in the gender-war riposte of Mamma Mia! either. Two hours of flatly performed ABBA music = not my glass of tea.
What a lacklustre (US) summer this has been... |
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| Joe Vitus |
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| I was bored at Batman Begins, too. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:44 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I was bored at Batman Begins, too.
Bored by the movie and annoyed by the cultish reaction by critics and fanboys. Nowhere in the same league as the retroactively underrated Burton Batman, still some kind of a great movie. |
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| tirebiter |
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| Feck alla yez. My kids and I loved Batman Begins and can't wait for the new one. You were all poorly brought up. If you'd had a good solid grounding in comic books as a kid, as I and my children have, you'd be able to appreciate this. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:00 am |
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| I liked Batman Begins. I also liked the first two Batman movies. I'm looking forward to the new one. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:53 am |
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| I want to see the new Batman too, if only for the cast. (How come the publicity storm completely overlooks Gary Oldman? I wouldn't know he was in it if not for the posters.) |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:06 am |
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| The first Burton Batman was a great movie of a sort, a beautiful homage to silent movies like The Phantom of the Opera and featuring a wildly underrated Michael Keaton. The sequel, Batman Returns, was a solid action flick but not in the same ball park stylistically as the first. The two Joel Schumacher followups were beneath contempt. Batman Begins was pretentious, endless, and booooring. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:14 am |
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| The second Batman had to do without that fabulous set designer from the first one. I think he had committed suicide. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:45 am |
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billyweeds wrote: The first Burton Batman was a great movie of a sort, a beautiful homage to silent movies like The Phantom of the Opera and featuring a wildly underrated Michael Keaton. The sequel, Batman Returns, was a solid action flick but not in the same ball park stylistically as the first. The two Joel Schumacher followups were beneath contempt. Batman Begins was pretentious, endless, and booooring.
Truth is, I saw Batman Begins and can't remember a thing about it. The first Burton Batman is a joy. It is theatrical in the best sense of the word. It's a true comic book take and wonderfully rendered. Burton's Batman is pure theater and entertaining to the max.
The second Burton Batman is almost as wonderfully stylistic as the first but is weighted down by a dark and disturbing Danny Devito as the Penguin. It also suffers from the loss of Kim Basinger as Vicki Vane. But it's still good entertainment.
I've heard good things about Heath Ledger as The Joker. Though I have a feeling he plays him without the joie de vive of Jack Nicholson. We'll see. |
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