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| mo_flixx |
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marantzo wrote: Here's a link to a biography of Stokowski. I searched this and his birthplace isn't mentioned or that name that Wiki cames as the original.
http://tinyurl.com/59ztd8
Now I'm fascinated and will search some more.
Gary, have you read the paragraph I mentioned in the wiki article? It cites these sources for Stokowski's original name: birth certificates for him, his father, sister, and brother. In addition it cites student entry registers from a number of institutions.
There is also a Bibliography for the entry. This bibliography cites the William Ander Smith book you mention as well as a number of other biographies. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:44 am |
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His mother did call him Leo Stokes and so did his friends at that stage of his life apparently. He didn't accept it according to what was written. And his brother used the last name Stock.
I'll check the Wiki article. I googled Leo Stokes and that's what I came up with. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:57 am |
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| Kate |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:04 am |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:17 am |
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Ah, ANTONI STANISLAW BOLESLAWOWICZ were his first names, Boleslawowicz also being his father's unless the Poles have double last names. And his last name was Stokowski.
Not only was he not from Poland, but it seems his family of at least three generations were born in England.
Always liked him as a conductor, and one of his big inspirations was Berlioz who is a favourite of mine.
The story of his name change was a little mixed in my mind with Enzo Stuarti's story which went that his name was changed to Ernest Stuart, actually Larry Stuart and then he changed it back again to Enzo Stuarti which was actually Lorenzo Scapone. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:20 am |
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marantzo wrote: Ah, ANTONI STANISLAW BOLESLAWOWICZ were his first names, Boleslawowicz also being his father's unless the Poles have double last names. And his last name was Stokowski.
Not only was he not from Poland, but it seems his family of at least three generations were born in England.
Always liked him as a conductor, and one of his big inspirations was Berlioz who is a favourite of mine.
The story of his name change was a little mixed in my mind with Enzo Stuarti's story which went that his name was changed to Ernest Stuart, actually Larry Stuart and then he changed it back again to Enzo Stuarti which was actually Lorenzo Scapone.
Geraldo Rivera was always known as Jerry Rivers until he decided to go all ethnic. Yma Sumac, the cult singer, was reported born Amy Camus from Brooklyn, reversed her name and created a Peruvian background. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:22 am |
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Kate wrote: Call me a fan boy, er girl, but I can't wait to see Hell Boy II and The Dark Knight
You don't have to be a fan boy. I rarely read Batman, too many words, and I only know Hellboy from the first movie. I am looking forward to those two with great anticipation. I loved the first Hellboy and this one is touted as being even better. And the reviews of The Dark Knight have been raves.
The director of both Hellboy movies was an inspired choice. Viva Mexico. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:25 am |
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Quote: Thomas McCarthy's The Visitor, like his previous movie The Station Agentis an unconventional off-beat story about some fascinating (oddball?) characters.
I had no idea they were by the same director. Great, I loved both those movies. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:26 am |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:26 am |
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billyweeds wrote: marantzo wrote: Ah, ANTONI STANISLAW BOLESLAWOWICZ were his first names, Boleslawowicz also being his father's unless the Poles have double last names. And his last name was Stokowski.
Not only was he not from Poland, but it seems his family of at least three generations were born in England.
Always liked him as a conductor, and one of his big inspirations was Berlioz who is a favourite of mine.
The story of his name change was a little mixed in my mind with Enzo Stuarti's story which went that his name was changed to Ernest Stuart, actually Larry Stuart and then he changed it back again to Enzo Stuarti which was actually Lorenzo Scapone.
Geraldo Rivera was always known as Jerry Rivers until he decided to go all ethnic. Yma Sumac, the cult singer, was reported born Amy Camus from Brooklyn, reversed her name and created a Peruvian background.
None of the research I found (wiki or imdb.com) indicated that LS was _born_ in Poland. It had to do with names on birth certificates and names on schools' entry rosters. Both sources cited the place of birth as London.
Some of these examples have reached urban myth status. I once saw Geraldo go absolutely ballistic on TV when someone brought up Jerry Rivers. Who knows what THAT was supposed to mean.
The Amy Camus story is one I've heard frequently but never known what to believe. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:36 pm |
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| The Yma Sumac story is true as far as I know. I didn't hear the part about her reversing her name, but the part about being a Brooklyn girl seems to be taken as fact. When I first heard her and heard of her, which was in the mid or maybe even early 50's, I heard that she was really from Brooklyn. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Quote: None of the research I found (wiki or imdb.com) indicated that LS was _born_ in Poland.
I was referring to the history that he made up for himself. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:47 pm |
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Not wanting to buck crowds of kids and others, I decided to see a movie that hadn't just opened and got mildly good reviews on here, though not many other places, I went to Hancock. Good choice. Very entertaining, with some very funny scenes of mayhem. The three leads were all fun to watch and the movie was even quite touching in parts.
One of the funny things was that, till I read the closing credits, I didn't know the female lead was Theron. Now there's the sign of a good actress. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:34 pm |
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Gary, you are certainly a wealth of info. today on the subject of any number of urban legends.
Here's what I found about Amy Camus:
http://www.sunvirgin.com/?PageID=18
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yma_Sumac [check footnote #7].
We're on one subject for awhile...but then it reminds you of some other tangent and off you go. From LS to Geraldo to Amy Camus. Six degrees of Kevin Bacon, INDEED.
I, for one, don't care if Amy wants to call herself Minnie Mouse.
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:06 pm |
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